Looking for Information on My New Coal Stove

 
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Post by morso » Thu. Jan. 29, 2015 8:14 pm

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Hi I had this stove a whille and decided to get ot running. Its a tin stove with cast parts you rebolt a new bit of stove pipe on when the tin gets thin, I have seen pleanty of wood stoves like this but this one is very nicly lined with shaped bricks, it also has a proper grate. With soft coal it burns very well.
It hasThe words, Crest 8 cast in it and was made by the NY Stove Works Peekskill NY.


 
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Post by Buck47 » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 9:17 am

morso wrote:Hi I had this stove a whille and decided to get ot running. Its a tin stove with cast parts you rebolt a new bit of stove pipe on when the tin gets thin, I have seen pleanty of wood stoves like this but this one is very nicly lined with shaped bricks, it also has a proper grate. With soft coal it burns very well.
It hasThe words, Crest 8 cast in it and was made by the NY Stove Works Peekskill NY.
What a nice looking little stove.

When you say re-bolt to a new piece of stove pipe, can the round stove body be replaced with 8 inch stove pipe?

How big of an area will it heat?

Thanks for posting. Regards: john

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Post by morso » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 9:41 am

Yes its a 8 inch flue pipe with the iron parts bolted to it, I have seen them before but normaly the tin part is sat on a iron pot that the wood fire burns in, one this is lined with tiny shaped fire bricks. I don't know how much space it would heat I have it in a small bathroom it gets hot fast. Here is a picture of the intresting fire bricks

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Post by Buck47 » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 10:52 am

morso wrote:Yes its a 8 inch flue pipe with the iron parts bolted to it, I have seen them before but normaly the tin part is sat on a iron pot that the wood fire burns in, one this is lined with tiny shaped fire bricks. I don't know how much space it would heat I have it in a small bathroom it gets hot fast. Here is a picture of the intresting fire bricks
Most interesting. It appears as if the fire bricks are molded so as to be ribbed like a cast fire pot. The fire bricks would be easy to mold and then recast.
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I'm fascinated by the simplicity of the design. What size chimney pipe is used on this stove?

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Post by morso » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 2:49 pm

5" Chimney. I wonder if you brought the kit at the local hardwear store and put it together with your own pipe. I think I have see stoves that were made using the same idea but a 5 gall oil drum, but never one with fire bricks. And with a proper shacker grate its ideal to burn soft coal. My problem is its hard to get coal here in NC about 1 1/2 hr drive. But really good soft coal. I will rebuild it completly this summer. I am was thinking of putting a stainless tube inside covering the fire brick part and protecting the old bricks
it would be really easy to do just drop it down from the top. Or might just look into new bricks.

 
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Post by Buck47 » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 5:56 pm

morso wrote: I wonder if you brought the kit at the local hardwear store and put it together with your own pipe. With a proper shacker grate its ideal to burn soft coal.

I am was thinking of putting a stainless tube inside covering the fire brick part and protecting the old bricks it would be really easy to do just drop it down from the top.

Or might just look into new bricks.
It looks from the photos there are two rings of fire brick. A smooth brick lining next to the tube inside dia. the lower (fire Pot) a second circle of ribbed fire brick. Or am I looking at it wrong?
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My question is - how many different size bricks are in this stove design? The reason I ask is I have mold material to make master molds for replacing the fire brick in my Locke120 - and Warm Morning 520 stoves. With the master mold I can make fire bricks as I need to replace them.

However I have found, burning Anthracite coal has no destructive affect on the brick lining. The fire brick look just as clean and smooth after burning 2400 pounds since last fall. Only a light coating of fly ash. No cracks or heat damage. Even the color is the same - a light gray.

BTW: A cement cutting wheel on a 4 1/2 inch grinder will do an excellent job of cleaning off the build up on your bricks.
I found the wheel will also does a fine job of polishing the faces of these fire brick.

Regards: john

 
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Post by morso » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 7:54 pm

There are three rings. they are sat on top of one another, about eight pieces to each ring. they are Cresent-molded and the edges are beveled, so once dropped in they hold themselves in place... bit like a bridge arch. they form a straight tube that sits on the edge of the grate. Where they have been damaged, cement has been pushed in the gaps over the years. I think if I was to try and move one it might be the end for them all. Are your molds made of metal, and is it hard to get the material to make the bricks?
I have burned Anthracite for years in my Morso stove on the boat I lived on. I like to burn some soft coal, with the door open watching the fire seems so familiarto me. I lived most of my life in the UK from a child to adult. we always heated with coal and wood. it is still common to burn coal back home, so it surprises me that its so hard to find in the USA.
The casting on this stove is very light so I think I will stick to the soft coal, plus I don't think I am finding a grate any time soon.


 
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Post by Buck47 » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 9:11 pm

I make a mold from silicone rubber mold, company name is Polytech - once I have the mold Refractory cement is used in the molds to make the new fire brick. http://www.polytek.com/

A search on the forum should produce a weath of information on what others have used.

Regards: john

 
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Post by morso » Fri. Jan. 30, 2015 9:27 pm

Thzts very interesting thank you

 
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Post by FanMan » Tue. Nov. 08, 2016 7:42 pm

Old thread, I know, but this is the only stove I've seen similar to my Daisy 10 from the same manufacturer. The top castings look identical to mine, as does the firebrick liner,except for the size (mine is 10" diameter).
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I don't think it was a kit; the original tube on mine had rolled ribs that I've never seen on any stovepipe. I believe it was original, and the stove only saw occasional use in a [mostly] summer use cabin. But replacing the tube is easy; I used stainless steel as described in the above linked thread. I considered replacing the bricks but they weren't that bad, with a little furnace cement to fill the cracks and chips.

 
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Post by ddahlgren » Wed. Nov. 09, 2016 9:57 am

With a new president coal may be easier to find.

 
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Post by coalfan » Wed. Nov. 09, 2016 10:02 am

DITTO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Nov. 09, 2016 10:14 am

FanMan wrote:Old thread, I know, but this is the only stove I've seen similar to my Daisy 10 from the same manufacturer. The top castings look identical to mine, as does the firebrick liner,except for the size (mine is 10" diameter).
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I don't think it was a kit; the original tube on mine had rolled ribs that I've never seen on any stovepipe. I believe it was original, and the stove only saw occasional use in a [mostly] summer use cabin. But replacing the tube is easy; I used stainless steel as described in the above linked thread. I considered replacing the bricks but they weren't that bad, with a little furnace cement to fill the cracks and chips.
Those rolled ribs in stove barrels are not just for decoration - they add some stiffening strength to the barrel shape same as a flanged edge would. Helps it keep it's round shape.

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Post by FanMan » Wed. Nov. 09, 2016 11:23 am

Sunny Boy wrote: Those rolled ribs in stove barrels are not just for decoration - they add some stiffening strength to the barrel shape same as a flanged edge would. Helps it keep it's round shape.

Paul
True. But with a heavier gauge tube with a welded seam as I now have, it's plenty stiff.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Nov. 09, 2016 12:13 pm

FanMan wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote: Those rolled ribs in stove barrels are not just for decoration - they add some stiffening strength to the barrel shape same as a flanged edge would. Helps it keep it's round shape.

Paul
True. But with a heavier gauge tube with a welded seam as I now have, it's plenty stiff.


And it's smaller diameter also helps some. I don't see that the beads would be missed in this instance. ;)

Let us know how well it heats that cabin. Remember, pix, or it didn't happen. :D

Paul


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