Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: treysgt On: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:27 am

Looking real close at one of these models for my basement stoker. Seems to be the right size and will fit into my fireplace hearth space. Around $1750 with a coal-trol seems pretty reasonable to me. I spoke with Karen at the LL store and she was very helpful.

A close second would be a Keystoker Bay-window model, but that is about $1000 more than the sidewinder and I don't really like the looks of it as much.

Just trying to get some feedback from any LL Sidewinder owners out there. Any problems or advice on the unit?

Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark1

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Re: Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: cosmo On: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:24 pm

Hi trey

I have the big brother Hearth model, also a sidewinder, I bought it specifically so I could vent into my fireplace. I didn't have a lot of venting options. This fireplace is in my basement which causes some distribution issues which I'm working on. But the upside is it makes loading and removal of ashes convinient. I also looked at alaska's hearth model but was sold on the Coaltrol Stat. Which works flawlessly.No regets here, I'm happy with my LL Hearth. Good luck !

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Stove/Furnace Model: hearth

Re: Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: treysgt On: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:17 pm

Thanks for the post - I appreciate it. I suspect you are trying to get that heat moved further than I am - getting a basement heater to heat more than the basement can be tough..! If the Econo will easily heat my entire basement (500sq/ft) plus the 260sq/ft kitchen above it, I will be totally pleased, since I have the hand-fired in my living room.

My real concern is with the automation involved with a stoker. I am quite confident in my hand-fired Mark1, but have concerns about reliability with a stoker. This could just be due to ignorance on my part, but it surely is more complex. I guess I started this thread to hear if there were some stories specifically with the LL Econos that I should know about before buying. I did search a bit before posting and from what I have read on this forum most seem happy, so maybe there is no bad news?

Thanks again for any info!

Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark1

Re: Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: coalshop On: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:05 am

Trey, my daughter/son-in-law and I have been heating our homes for 3 yrs. now with Hyfire1's ,and I heat my garage with a Pocono all LL stoves. the Econo is just a small verison but the stoker setup is the same. we haven't had any problems at all with any of the stoves. the stoker setup I think, is the best on the market, just giving my thoughts on stokers. we burn wet coal all winter long because we keep it outside and it never does get dry. not advertising but we are very happy with the stokers. :D :)
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Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 1;House Pocono;Garage

Re: Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: pvolcko On: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:54 am

Mine is a biased opinion, given the strong business relationship between Automation Correct and Leisure Line, but here goes:

As Coalshop said, the stoker mechanism on the Econo Sidewinder is the same design used on all the coal stoves Leisure Line makes (differences in size and BTU rating only). Jerry used to have a video clip posted at his site describing and showing the stoker mechanism. Hopefully he'll pipe up with a link to it. :) It is a clip from the DVD he puts in with his stoves and runs in some of his dealer locations.

There are quality stoker units produced by other manufacturers, to be sure. However, the Leisure Line stoker is the simplest one out there so far as I know. That simplicity coupled with quality parts and workmanship result in a highly reliable unit. And should you run into a problem, the after-sale service provided with Leisure Line products is second to none.

That said, shop and compare. If you're concerned about the stoker mechanism make sure to compare those of other model and makes that you're interested in. And use the search features here to better tap the vast resource that is the NEPA forums. :)

Re: Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:30 am

treysgt wrote: but have concerns about reliability with a stoker. This could just be due to ignorance on my part, but it surely is more complex.

All stokers use simple mechanisms, the bed types like the LL are the simplest of all. With proper care it should last for a very long time. The only real if issue that crops up with a stoker mechanism is if you get big chunk of coal or some other foreign debris in it. That will usually bind up the mechanism. It's not a common occurrence but does happen. Chances are you'll see it when loading the hopper if you pay attention. Simplest way to avoid it by placing a screen over the hopper to filter out any chunks but that will make some dust and there's good chance it won't ever filter anything.

If you modified the hopper so the screen was inside it about half way up you'd be golden. This IMO is something that should be included in the design of all stokers.
Richard S.
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Leisure Line Econo Sidewinder

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:23 am

As long as you do the cleaning and maintenace after the burning season, the stokers shouldn't give you many problems. I have an older Leisure Line Hyfire (3-5 years old) bought used from LSFarm and a 3 year old keystoker, both run great with only a combustion blower went out on the Hyfire. Jerry @ LL is great for getting parts and support.!
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