Searching for the Perfect Cook Stove
- Smokeyja
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ok I can't stand it anymore ! I want a cook stove for next winter .
I have wanted to put something in the kitchen ever since I bought the house. The roof is uninsulated as it used to be a back porch ! But the section that I wanted to put the cook stove was part of an add on that was the kitchen and there used to be a stove of some sort . I have a good masonry chimney ready to go.
I want to try to find the best suited cook stove . Originally I had purchased an old Zephyr deluxe
You can see and read about it here:
My Wife Is Going to Kill Me! Zephyr Cook Stove
I later, after fixing it up a little for use , decided it wasn't a good fit for the home. It would have fit perfect but It just looked like too much of a modern appliance than I wanted .
So here is the space I have to work with .
60" of the left side of the photo from the edge to the brick and 45" on the right side . You can see the flue in the top right corner .
I would like a stove to fit either or . Now I would like it to fit right up against the wall if at all possible . If you look at Rayburn stoves and similar stove like it in The UK and throughout Europe you will see these appliances in tight spaces . I can and will make the walls to what they need . If you go to google and search for Rayburn or AGA stoves you will see what I mean. This would most likely be the ideal coal stove for me but I don't think importing is much of an option due to cost .
Maybe one of the antique restorers can give me a heads up on this style . The problem with most of the cook stoves I see is the need to be set off the wall or they have all these extra parts that stick out causing you to have all this wasted space around them. I don't live in a big house so I don't have much room.
Another member turned me on to this link of a Rayburn
But I am open to other options that are more realistic to me. I love antique stoves and I know there has to be some US made stoves like what I am looking for or close to it. I want a water tank or the ability to hook water lines to run radiators or a hot water tank . Money is a big consideration . I don't have any now due to Kodak but hopefully can save up this year for a cook stove . I think it will help with the coal consumption in the Glenwood as well.
And again I am open to any cook stove really. I don't want the 40's / 50's look though like the zephyr .
Any and all ideas welcome . I actually really like this US army cook stove but it's too rich for my blood right now . U.S. Army Range Stove $1500
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I have wanted to put something in the kitchen ever since I bought the house. The roof is uninsulated as it used to be a back porch ! But the section that I wanted to put the cook stove was part of an add on that was the kitchen and there used to be a stove of some sort . I have a good masonry chimney ready to go.
I want to try to find the best suited cook stove . Originally I had purchased an old Zephyr deluxe
You can see and read about it here:
My Wife Is Going to Kill Me! Zephyr Cook Stove
I later, after fixing it up a little for use , decided it wasn't a good fit for the home. It would have fit perfect but It just looked like too much of a modern appliance than I wanted .
So here is the space I have to work with .
60" of the left side of the photo from the edge to the brick and 45" on the right side . You can see the flue in the top right corner .
I would like a stove to fit either or . Now I would like it to fit right up against the wall if at all possible . If you look at Rayburn stoves and similar stove like it in The UK and throughout Europe you will see these appliances in tight spaces . I can and will make the walls to what they need . If you go to google and search for Rayburn or AGA stoves you will see what I mean. This would most likely be the ideal coal stove for me but I don't think importing is much of an option due to cost .
Maybe one of the antique restorers can give me a heads up on this style . The problem with most of the cook stoves I see is the need to be set off the wall or they have all these extra parts that stick out causing you to have all this wasted space around them. I don't live in a big house so I don't have much room.
Another member turned me on to this link of a Rayburn
But I am open to other options that are more realistic to me. I love antique stoves and I know there has to be some US made stoves like what I am looking for or close to it. I want a water tank or the ability to hook water lines to run radiators or a hot water tank . Money is a big consideration . I don't have any now due to Kodak but hopefully can save up this year for a cook stove . I think it will help with the coal consumption in the Glenwood as well.
And again I am open to any cook stove really. I don't want the 40's / 50's look though like the zephyr .
Any and all ideas welcome . I actually really like this US army cook stove but it's too rich for my blood right now . U.S. Army Range Stove $1500
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- Smokeyja
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I just found out that AGA , who bought out Rayburn, sells in North America now . It seems they offer the tradition cook stove so I may be in luck. Price however may hinder me and new doesn't seem as appealing .
http://www.aga-ranges.com/buying-an-aga/aga-cast- ... ained.aspx
Man that Glenwood looks great . I wouldn't be able to swing it right now though or the trip cost up to Maine .
http://www.aga-ranges.com/buying-an-aga/aga-cast- ... ained.aspx
Man that Glenwood looks great . I wouldn't be able to swing it right now though or the trip cost up to Maine .
- michaelanthony
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I like the look of this stove.
I would get my feet wet with this one if I was in the market.
I would get my feet wet with this one if I was in the market.
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It is a nice look and it has the pipe where I would want it so it could be put close to the wall. But this one looks a bit small.
Both the Glenwood and this one have the pipes where you ca. Put the stove to the wall. These are good options.
The zephyr would have had too have been put off the wall .
Both the Glenwood and this one have the pipes where you ca. Put the stove to the wall. These are good options.
The zephyr would have had too have been put off the wall .
- Smokeyja
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You are right I can't find it either . To be honest their site is confusing to me . I will call them tomorrow and ask them about it . Maybe they can ship one of their coal models over. Who knows . Gonna check on import cost too. I just found out yesterday that the house I saw the old Rayburn in with radiators that a friend was renting in England has been renovated and they removed the Rayburn. If only I had known I could have asked for it . It was rather old . I would have loved it .PJT wrote:Josh I can't find the wood/coal fired range at the Aga website they're all electric or gas....where are you seeing it?
I also now remember it was you who sent me that Rayburn video!
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Well I hope you can track down that old stove they removed Josh!
The ability of installing the Rayburn/Aga right up against the wall is cool but I imagine that would mean one wouldn't get that much radiant heat from the stove....it would only be for cooking not for heating....so the ability to hook up radiators to the stove would be important....
The ability of installing the Rayburn/Aga right up against the wall is cool but I imagine that would mean one wouldn't get that much radiant heat from the stove....it would only be for cooking not for heating....so the ability to hook up radiators to the stove would be important....
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that little pet is a good looking stove !!my wife was wanting simalair to that size !! but now we are planning on moving in the near future so we don't need the extra baggage etc and don't have the room here anyway ! well win some and loose some will look alot more when the moving is done !!
- Smokeyja
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What I need to do is make a trip to England again soon and pick out a stove and ship it back ! Not gonna happen this year . With the cost of the trip I could by a stove .PJT wrote:Well I hope you can track down that old stove they removed Josh!
The ability of installing the Rayburn/Aga right up against the wall is cool but I imagine that would mean one wouldn't get that much radiant heat from the stove....it would only be for cooking not for heating....so the ability to hook up radiators to the stove would be important....
Maybe I will put the word out about that stove . I don't need a lot of heat in the kitchen but I assume it would provide some . The ability to pipe a radiator in the pump room and pipes under house would be pretty cool but I'm not sold on all that just yet .
Were there any older all cast iron ranges in the US that had the ability to pipe to radiators or a water tank?
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I have seen an old Perfection Kerosene Stove catalog at Miles Stairs website that showed a hot water tank hooked up to a three burner kerosene stove so I would imagine the same thing was done with coal stoves?Smokeyja wrote:Were there any older all cast iron ranges in the US that had the ability to pipe to radiators or a water tank?
- Smokeyja
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Ok so I emailed about the US army cook stove . I'm asking for a barter deal . Most likely they won't even respond but you never know . Not everything comes down to money . At least not in my world . We will see . I will keep yall updated .
Also found some info on the range online
http://antiquestoves.net/dir/wood-coal-cook-stove ... kr1532-blk
Also found some info on the range online
http://antiquestoves.net/dir/wood-coal-cook-stove ... kr1532-blk
- Smokeyja
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Ok so it's a no go on the barter for the U.S. Army stove . I don't think it's worth $1500 either . So the hunt continues .
- Sunny Boy
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In looking at them for one of my daughters, it seems there's some question about how well the European (soft coal) ranges will work with anthracite.
Any of the USA antique ranges I'm aware of, will need at least some space out from the walls,..... even if using heat shields.
Paul
Any of the USA antique ranges I'm aware of, will need at least some space out from the walls,..... even if using heat shields.
Paul
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To my knowledge parts of The UK use anthracite as well just like here . At least my mother in law recalled using anthracite when she was a little girl .Sunny Boy wrote:In looking at them for one of my daughters, it seems there's some question about how well the European (soft coal) ranges will work with anthracite.
Any of the USA antique ranges I'm aware of, will need at least some space out from the walls,..... even if using heat shields.
Paul
I'm not apposed to using bit though or wood . Of course it's much simpler keeping the same fuel in the house for both stoves . I am an impatient person but I have a lot of time to pick out a good stove to fit my needs .
As far as clearances go ... I like to use my best judgement . I would most likely put masonry on the wall there . It's interesting how the states view things differently than Europe ... Like everyone has this giant abundance of space in their house .
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- Smokeyja
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A AGA total control stove is 20k+ new .... Wtf?
I think it would be cheeper to get an old Rayburn or AGA in the UK and ship it over than pay for one in the stoves . Damn rich folks and there designer ideas .
I think it would be cheeper to get an old Rayburn or AGA in the UK and ship it over than pay for one in the stoves . Damn rich folks and there designer ideas .