Electronic Voting Machines

stockingfull wrote:Very perceptive, very substantive.

I'm going to guess that you thought Algore won the 2000 election.

spc wrote:

stockingfull wrote:Very perceptive, very substantive.

I'm going to guess that you thought Algore won the 2000 election.

I'm going to guess that you like paperless, electronic voting machines.

stockingfull wrote:I'm going to guess that you like paperless, electronic voting machines.

I don't have a preference as long as the voters know how to use them. No hanging chads people.

spc wrote:I don't have a preference as long as the voters know how to use them. No hanging chads people.

You may think twice about that after watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

Richard S. wrote:

spc wrote:I don't have a preference as long as the voters know how to use them. No hanging chads people.

You may think twice about that after watching this video:

"We're sorry. This video is no longer available."

Is that an electronic voting machine joke?

Richard S. wrote:

spc wrote:I don't have a preference as long as the voters know how to use them. No hanging chads people.

You may think twice about that after watching this video:

Video isn't available, is that one that shows McCain winning? I'm more concerned about illegals, criminals & dead people voting. RI has a good system, voters join 2 arrows together next to the candidate on a ballot & scan it in the voting machine.

hmmm... Here's direct link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

Richard S. wrote:hmmm... Here's direct link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

Diebold must have destroyed the video

spc wrote:

Richard S. wrote:hmmm... Here's direct link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

Diebold must have destroyed the video

I can't open it either. Is this a Diebold joke? Don't tell me we're agreeing here!

spc wrote:

stockingfull wrote:Very perceptive, very substantive.

I'm going to guess that you thought Algore won the 2000 election.

He did infact win the popular vote. Popular vote.....You know...who the American People actualy wanted as President. (first time in the history of this country that a Presidential candidate won the popular vote but didn't become President.......& just look how wonderful things have turned out with GW)

stockingfull wrote:

spc wrote:

Richard S. wrote:hmmm... Here's direct link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

Diebold must have destroyed the video

I can't open it either. Is this a Diebold joke? Don't tell me we're agreeing here!

Finally

Do search for voting machine on you tube. Must be the men in "Black Coats" don't want anyone to see it... It's a conspiracy I tell you.

That came out about year ago, that is one of the reasons the rush to computers was such a bad thing. It forced the hand of too many voting districts, granted the chad was a fiasco but these electronic voting machines forced on the public are so much more of a fiasco. If you take our County for example they had those steal behemoths from back in the early part of the century, there was never any complaints as to their accuracy. They were working practically flawlessly for almost a century but now we have electronic voting machines, machines I might add that cost something like 3 or 4 million to buy and come with a year warranty...

Devil5052 wrote:

spc wrote:

stockingfull wrote:Very perceptive, very substantive.

I'm going to guess that you thought Algore won the 2000 election.

He did infact win the popular vote. Popular vote.....You know...who the American People actualy wanted as President. (first time in the history of this country that a Presidential candidate won the popular vote but didn't become President.......& just look how wonderful things have turned out with GW)

Actually, second; Rutherford B. Hayes in, IIRC, 1876, was the first.

[quote="stockingfull


He did infact win the popular vote. Popular vote.....You know...who the American People actualy wanted as President. (first time in the history of this country that a Presidential candidate won the popular vote but didn't become President.......& just look how wonderful things have turned out with GW)[/quote]

Actually, second; Rutherford B. Hayes in, IIRC, 1876, was the first.[/quote]


I stand corrected. (I'll have to check my history but I wonder if Hayes's Presidency was a dismal failure like GW's?)

Richard S. wrote:Do search for voting machine on you tube. Must be the men in "Black Coats" don't want anyone to see it... It's a conspiracy I tell you.

That came out about year ago, that is one of the reasons the rush to computers was such a bad thing. It forced the hand of too many voting districts, granted the chad was a fiasco but these electronic voting machines forced on the public are so much more of a fiasco. If you take our County for example they had those steal behemoths from back in the early part of the century, there was never any complaints as to their accuracy. They were working practically flawlessly for almost a century but now we have electronic voting machines, machines I might add that cost something like 3 or 4 million to buy and come with a year warranty...

I worked for the Kerry voter protection effort in Broward Co. FL in 2004. Paperless "ATM-style" machines manufactured by Diebold. All sorts of fear of hacking/rigging risk -- but with no paper anywhere, how ya gonna prove it?

I've always liked the lever-type "Jamestown" machines we've had here in NY for a very long time. Something comforting knowing that a cam is turning a mechanical tumbler when you pull the lever. But, because of the req'ts of HAVA ("Help America Vote Act") regarding disabled voting, NY will be phasing in new OCR machines this fall. Back to the future: voters will vote a paper ballot, which will stand as backup after being scanned into the OCR machine, which will upload the data to the Board of Elections.