Now I'm really confused.. Turning the dial down.. wouldn't that make it run cooler? My wife won't stand for it when its 45 outside and only 65 in the house.oliver power wrote:Simply turn down the dial for room comfort. It's all taken care of for you .
OK LightningLightning wrote:Now I'm really confused.. Turning the dial down.. wouldn't that make it run cooler? My wife won't stand for it when its 45 outside and only 65 in the house.oliver power wrote:Simply turn down the dial for room comfort. It's all taken care of for you .
Just tryin to help..
, we all appreciate the brain stimulating effort your trying to set forth :lol . For the sake of outside (non member) readers, simply turn the dial down. . There are many on the board that use a MPD in these bi metallic regulated, hopper fed stoves. Since a MPD and a baro have the same effect on negative pressure in the fire box by weakening it, it would stand to reason that the MPD would also make it run more inefficient and use more coal just like the baro seems to be. I think we would be hard pressed to get the MPD users to agree with that. I'll agree to disagree, and I realize that's just my opinion and that's ok. I still believe there is something else other than the baro being at fault for the original poster's increase in consumption. He seems to say its been over the course of the last week or so. My consumption has gone up too, because its cold out. I've gone from 70-80 pounds per day to over 100. The temp outside has been way below average for quite sometime now.This is what I thought initially as well since he said it was about the same consumption for this year before the last week or so. It's not the baro, it's been frickin' cold out and with the wind blowing hard coal consumption even here in the balmy south has jumped over 100lbs for me a few days also.Lightning wrote:I still believe there is something else other than the baro being at fault for the original poster's increase in consumption. He seems to say its been over the course of the last week or so. My consumption has gone up too, because its cold out. I've gone from 70-80 pounds per day to over 100. The temp outside has been way below average for quite sometime now.
It looked like a baseball card in the spokes of a kids bike 
BUT, it's what in my experience I've found to be true in my setting.
There must be someone with both and too tired to do anything elsefreetown fred wrote:One or the other is real functional. Both would just be mental masturbation!! There, that should start something
Too tired for masturbation?!?michaelanthony wrote:There must be someone with both and too tired to do anything elsefreetown fred wrote:One or the other is real functional. Both would just be mental masturbation!! There, that should start something
Hahaha...my Vigilant has neither and works great also.northernmainecoal wrote:Too tired for masturbation?!?
I don't have a mpd or baro on my hitzer and haven't ever seen the need for either I guess
Yes, but your vigilant has a internal bypass damper, and a bi-metallic thermostat. Which are the reasons you don't need MPD, or Baro.. My HITZER's don't need MPD, or Barometric damper either. I've said that right along for years. I installed a Barometric damper strictly for playing with my new draft gauge (I can do that in the shop). Doing a little experimenting to see the different results. The very first night with barometric damper, was when the snow started coming. I went through 1/3 the coal I normally would that night. That was a weather related, false reality. It had me all excited. I knew it was too good to be true. The very next tending, I used a lot more coal with draft setting at -5. The higher the draft, the hotter the bed of coals, the faster the mass heated, the quicker the flapper door shut, the better the heat transferred, and coal usage went down (Back to normal). All the way around, performance improved as I kept inching up the draft. That's when I realized that even though the bi-metallic thermostat, and barometric damper do the same thing, they do it differently. They both stop over drafting. However, when experimenting, I see that when the flapper door pops open on a stove with bi-metallic thermostat, it wants all the draft it can get, as fast as it can get it, in order to heat the mass back up again, closing the flapper, trapping heat in the stove. Where as the barometric damper is set for low recommended draft, and that's it. It's not strong enough to pull the draft needed to make quick heat in a stove with bi-metallic thermostat. The stove will not perform as designed. And yes, I agree. Colder weather eats up more coal. That's a given. However, if the original poster is experiencing my findings, he needs to pull that barometric damper out, and let his stove perform as designed.michaelanthony wrote:Hahaha...my Vigilant has neither and works great also.northernmainecoal wrote:Too tired for masturbation?!?
I don't have a mpd or baro on my hitzer and haven't ever seen the need for either I guess
o.p. I wouldn't sleep well with a baro on the Vigilant, the internal passages slow the draft down plenty and a c.o. escape could happen. The elbow 12 inches behind my stove is reading 118 right now with the stove at 340* I don't have degrees to play with.oliver power wrote: Yes, but your vigilant has a internal bypass damper, and a bi-metallic thermostat. Which are the reasons you don't need MPD, or Baro.. My HITZER's don't need MPD, or Barometric damper either. I've said that right along for years. I installed a Barometric damper strictly for playing with my new draft gauge (I can do that in the shop). Doing a little experimenting to see the different results. The very first night was when the snow started coming. I went through 1/3 the coal I normally would that night. That was a weather related, false reality. The very next tending, I used a lot more coal with draft setting at -5. The higher the draft, the hotter the bed of coals, the faster the mass heated, the quicker the flapper door shut, the better the heat transferred, and coal usage went down (Back to normal). All the way around, performance improved as I kept inching up the draft.
