Old Friend New Stove
- Hambden Bob
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- Posts: 8536
- Joined: Mon. Jan. 04, 2010 10:54 am
- Location: Hambden Twp. Geauga County,Ohio
- Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Blower Model Coal Chubby 1982-Serial#0097
- Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni ! / Nut
- Other Heating: Pro-Pain Forced Air
I may Burn In Hell for this,but what do You think of throwing a Chubby into the mix? Simple,No Frills,Kinda Cute......Cripes,The 'Ol Boy may even develop a Relationship with the darn thing and drag his bed out by it ! I dunno,but it would seem to fit this Gent's M.O. and keep him in the game with it. I've got to personally Thank You for doing this for The 'Ol Boy ! Going Out Of Our Way When We Don't Have To Is but One Of The Simple Facets That Makes This Place Rock !!
- Lightning
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- Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
- Location: Olean, NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Modified AA 130
- Coal Size/Type: Pea Size - Anthracite
Fellas, this guy has been a WOOD BURNER forever! He's set in his ways, and will need to adjust a lot just to adapt to coal. I agree with the no hopper attitude. It will be tough enough learning the burn all over again after using wood that long. Ex wood burners can be tough sometimes. I tried to convert a wood burner to coal and failed miserably (I admit I have a way of making simple things complicated and vise versa) . Graham is doing right keeping it simple for his neighbor. No movin parts other than the shaker grates.
- davidmcbeth3
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- Joined: Sun. Jun. 14, 2009 2:31 pm
- Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
http://www.alaskastove.com/kodiak-hopper.html
http://readingstove.com/heating-stoves/coal-stove ... -stove.php
^^ this type of stove design better for older guy? With shaker handle easily accessed while standing?
http://readingstove.com/heating-stoves/coal-stove ... -stove.php
^^ this type of stove design better for older guy? With shaker handle easily accessed while standing?
- Stoker6268
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- Posts: 605
- Joined: Mon. Feb. 09, 2009 4:49 pm
- Location: Grafton NH
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
- Coal Size/Type: Pea
Original post'r says "all opinions appreciated" but doesnt want to hear them.
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??
- freetown fred
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- Posts: 30293
- Joined: Thu. Dec. 31, 2009 12:33 pm
- Location: Freetown,NY 13803
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
- Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut
OP asked in original post, for opinions on Hitzer 254, Hitzer 55 & DS circ. w/o hopper & all feed back would be appreciated. He did NOT ask for what everyone else would install.
- Stoker6268
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- Joined: Mon. Feb. 09, 2009 4:49 pm
- Location: Grafton NH
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
- Coal Size/Type: Pea
True, but except for the "antique" I think all was friendly constructive advice.
- oliver power
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- Posts: 2970
- Joined: Sun. Apr. 16, 2006 9:28 am
- Location: Near Dansville, NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-2310), D.S. 1600 Circulator, Hitzer 254
Being this guy has been a wood burner forever, maybe the D. S. would be the better stove, because of having over fire air for wood burning. If he resorts back to wood, he'd be double disappointed with HITZER, unless he adds over fire air.Lightning wrote:Fellas, this guy has been a WOOD BURNER forever! He's set in his ways, and will need to adjust a lot just to adapt to coal. I agree with the no hopper attitude. It will be tough enough learning the burn all over again after using wood that long. Ex wood burners can be tough sometimes. I tried to convert a wood burner to coal and failed miserably (I admit I have a way of making simple things complicated and vise versa) . Graham is doing right keeping it simple for his neighbor. No movin parts other than the shaker grates.
- windyhill4.2
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- Posts: 6072
- Joined: Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:17 pm
- Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Hitzer 55 ~~~~ the furnace version or the stoker version ?? Unless I am looking at the Hitzer site wrong,that is what I see when looking at a 55. To me the 55 in either version is so much different from the 254 that I am not understanding why the opinions about just getting a 30-95 with hopper are so far off base.Sometimes others opinions can trigger our own thoughts toward something we hadn't even considered. Otherwise if one has already made ones mind up & just wants like minded folks to confirm that way of thinking,then there is no purpose to starting a thread,just pm the members who you think will speak the words you want to hear.
- McGiever
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- Joined: Sun. May. 02, 2010 11:26 pm
- Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV
- Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: BUCKET A DAY water heater
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 414A
- Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
- Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar
No stoker in a Hitzer 55.
- windyhill4.2
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- Joined: Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:17 pm
- Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
McGiever,you are right,i took a triple look at their site again,never looked at that 55 under the word "stoker" b4,thought the word stoker was for the stoves under that word.
- SWPaDon
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- Location: Southwest Pa.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
- Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
- Other Heating: Oil furnace
After using a stove that the ash door must be open to shake, I'm looking to get something with an outside shaker handle.
First reason is that you can keep the dust inside, second is that one doesn't need to bend over so far to shake.
First reason is that you can keep the dust inside, second is that one doesn't need to bend over so far to shake.
- warminmn
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- Posts: 8110
- Joined: Tue. Feb. 08, 2011 5:59 pm
- Location: Land of 11,842 lakes
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin, Riteway 37
- Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite, lignite
- Other Heating: Wood and wear a wool shirt
If the man's wood stove had a window, I'd shy away from the 55, as he would really miss seeing the fire, or may keep peeking in there until he gets a boom. Just a thought. I think the firebox size of the 55 and 254 are the same, but I could be wrong.
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- Location: somewhere high in the catskill mountains
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: harman sf 160
- Coal Size/Type: Nut
- Other Heating: wood parlor stove
No, I don't have all the answers, That's why I'm here. Lets just say I have my "reasons" for simply searching out a decent simple hopper less unit. And I really don't appreciate being criticized for having an opinion; when just trying to help someone out!!!!!Stoker6268 wrote:Original post'r says "all opinions appreciated" but doesnt want to hear them.
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??
Jim
- SWPaDon
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- Location: Southwest Pa.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
- Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
- Other Heating: Oil furnace
I just ran the numbers.warminmn wrote:If the man's wood stove had a window, I'd shy away from the 55, as he would really miss seeing the fire, or may keep peeking in there until he gets a boom. Just a thought. I think the firebox size of the 55 and 254 are the same, but I could be wrong.
254 firebox : 260 sq. inches, and 4940 cubic inches.
55 firebox 330 sq. inches, and 8250 cubic inches.
- Stoker6268
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- Joined: Mon. Feb. 09, 2009 4:49 pm
- Location: Grafton NH
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
- Coal Size/Type: Pea
No, but when your opinions are wrong stating non hopper is easier and hoppers are "dangerous" you need to explain yourself or people will assume you just want people to agee with you.J F Graham wrote:No, I don't have all the answers, That's why I'm here. Lets just say I have my "reasons" for simply searching out a decent simple hopper less unit. And I really don't appreciate being criticized for having an opinion; when just trying to help someone out!!!!!Stoker6268 wrote:Original post'r says "all opinions appreciated" but doesnt want to hear them.
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??
Jim