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Post by Hambden Bob » Tue. Feb. 17, 2015 10:24 pm

I may Burn In Hell for this,but what do You think of throwing a Chubby into the mix? Simple,No Frills,Kinda Cute......Cripes,The 'Ol Boy may even develop a Relationship with the darn thing and drag his bed out by it ! I dunno,but it would seem to fit this Gent's M.O. and keep him in the game with it. I've got to personally Thank You for doing this for The 'Ol Boy ! Going Out Of Our Way When We Don't Have To Is but One Of The Simple Facets That Makes This Place Rock !! :dancing: toothy


 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Feb. 17, 2015 11:22 pm

Fellas, this guy has been a WOOD BURNER forever! He's set in his ways, and will need to adjust a lot just to adapt to coal. I agree with the no hopper attitude. It will be tough enough learning the burn all over again after using wood that long. Ex wood burners can be tough sometimes. I tried to convert a wood burner to coal and failed miserably (I admit I have a way of making simple things complicated and vise versa) :lol: . Graham is doing right keeping it simple for his neighbor. No movin parts other than the shaker grates. ;)

 
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Post by davidmcbeth3 » Tue. Feb. 17, 2015 11:59 pm

http://www.alaskastove.com/kodiak-hopper.html

http://readingstove.com/heating-stoves/coal-stove ... -stove.php

^^ this type of stove design better for older guy? With shaker handle easily accessed while standing?

 
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Post by Stoker6268 » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 6:28 am

Original post'r says "all opinions appreciated" but doesnt want to hear them.
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 6:34 am

OP asked in original post, for opinions on Hitzer 254, Hitzer 55 & DS circ. w/o hopper & all feed back would be appreciated. He did NOT ask for what everyone else would install.

 
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Post by Stoker6268 » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 6:44 am

True, but except for the "antique" I think all was friendly constructive advice.

 
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Post by oliver power » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 6:49 am

Lightning wrote:Fellas, this guy has been a WOOD BURNER forever! He's set in his ways, and will need to adjust a lot just to adapt to coal. I agree with the no hopper attitude. It will be tough enough learning the burn all over again after using wood that long. Ex wood burners can be tough sometimes. I tried to convert a wood burner to coal and failed miserably (I admit I have a way of making simple things complicated and vise versa) :lol: . Graham is doing right keeping it simple for his neighbor. No movin parts other than the shaker grates. ;)
Being this guy has been a wood burner forever, maybe the D. S. would be the better stove, because of having over fire air for wood burning. If he resorts back to wood, he'd be double disappointed with HITZER, unless he adds over fire air.


 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 7:04 am

Hitzer 55 ~~~~ the furnace version or the stoker version ?? Unless I am looking at the Hitzer site wrong,that is what I see when looking at a 55. To me the 55 in either version is so much different from the 254 that I am not understanding why the opinions about just getting a 30-95 with hopper are so far off base.Sometimes others opinions can trigger our own thoughts toward something we hadn't even considered. Otherwise if one has already made ones mind up & just wants like minded folks to confirm that way of thinking,then there is no purpose to starting a thread,just pm the members who you think will speak the words you want to hear. :roll:

 
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Post by McGiever » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 7:48 am

No stoker in a Hitzer 55. ;)

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 8:07 am

McGiever,you are right,i took a triple look at their site again,never looked at that 55 under the word "stoker" b4,thought the word stoker was for the stoves under that word.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 8:13 am

After using a stove that the ash door must be open to shake, I'm looking to get something with an outside shaker handle.

First reason is that you can keep the dust inside, second is that one doesn't need to bend over so far to shake.

 
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Post by warminmn » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 8:17 am

If the man's wood stove had a window, I'd shy away from the 55, as he would really miss seeing the fire, or may keep peeking in there until he gets a boom. Just a thought. I think the firebox size of the 55 and 254 are the same, but I could be wrong.

 
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Post by coalder » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 8:43 am

Stoker6268 wrote:Original post'r says "all opinions appreciated" but doesnt want to hear them.
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??
No, I don't have all the answers, That's why I'm here. Lets just say I have my "reasons" for simply searching out a decent simple hopper less unit. And I really don't appreciate being criticized for having an opinion; when just trying to help someone out!!!!!
Jim

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 8:44 am

warminmn wrote:If the man's wood stove had a window, I'd shy away from the 55, as he would really miss seeing the fire, or may keep peeking in there until he gets a boom. Just a thought. I think the firebox size of the 55 and 254 are the same, but I could be wrong.
I just ran the numbers.

254 firebox : 260 sq. inches, and 4940 cubic inches.

55 firebox 330 sq. inches, and 8250 cubic inches.

 
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Post by Stoker6268 » Wed. Feb. 18, 2015 9:20 am

J F Graham wrote:
Stoker6268 wrote:Original post'r says "all opinions appreciated" but doesnt want to hear them.
OP'r says wants something easy to operate but wont accept the fact a hopper/thermo unit "is" easier.
OP'r says hopper is "dangerous"??
Sounds like OP'r has all the answers, so why is he here??
No, I don't have all the answers, That's why I'm here. Lets just say I have my "reasons" for simply searching out a decent simple hopper less unit. And I really don't appreciate being criticized for having an opinion; when just trying to help someone out!!!!!
Jim
No, but when your opinions are wrong stating non hopper is easier and hoppers are "dangerous" you need to explain yourself or people will assume you just want people to agee with you.


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