stockingfull wrote:But it's funny; you guys are so smart and well-informed on this subject but you haven't yet enlightened us with a link to a "reliable" source backing up your positions, which your favorite newspaper, the New York Times, calls a "delusion":
The post I quoted is from the WHO itself, I don't see how it can get any more reliable than that. My interpretation of that you're not getting an accurate picture as to overall comparison. If the country you live in only has band-aids and they are the best band-aiders in the world they would rank higher than the U.S. If you have a different interpretation I'd love to here it.
Here's another interesting quote from that article:
Responsiveness: The nations with the most responsive health systems are the United States, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Germany, Japan, Canada, Norway, Netherlands and Sweden. The reason these are all advanced industrial nations is that a number of the elements of responsiveness depend strongly on the availability of resources. In addition, many of these countries were the first to begin addressing the responsiveness of their health systems to people’s needs.
That's an interesting quote don't you think? We can only assume that other no-industrial nations have also ranked in other parts of there study. e.g my analogy about the band-aids.
And further down:
Fairness of financial contribution: When WHO measured the fairness of financial contribution to health systems, countries lined up differently. The measurement is based on the fraction of a household’s capacity to spend (income minus food expenditure) that goes on health care (including tax payments, social insurance, private insurance and out of pocket payments). Colombia was the top-rated country in this category, followed by Luxembourg, Belgium, Djibouti, Denmark, Ireland, Germany, Norway, Japan and Finland.
Columbia may be the first place on the earth as far as the cost of healthcare goes but that doesn't mean they have the best healthcare. Would you go to to Columbia to for healthcare? I don't think there is single person in this entire country that would.
I'll give you another example of a poor comparison I often see, you frequently see mortality rates for newborns mentioned. The issue here is that many of these newborns would have never survived the pregnancy or the birth id they were in other countries, very weak and very sick babies are often birthed in the U.S. simply because they have the technology and expertise to do it. These babies often die after birth which of course is going to drive the death rate up.
The fact is when some important dude from any one of those countries on that list needs specialized healthcare where does he go ? He come here because he can afford it....