WL 110 Boiler

rickcj7 · Post by **rickcj7** » Sat. Mar. 07, 2015 10:18 am

but my waste oil is FREE
just cant get enough to last the winter

whistlenut · Post by **whistlenut** » Sat. Mar. 07, 2015 1:04 pm

31 post................................. and one would be the correct answer: You need more BTU's to satisfy the demand. You have effectively proved that by your experimentation. A basic heat loss would quickly reaffirm that, but no need now. You can purchase all the waste oil you want, however it isn't free. It should be simple enough to sell your boiler and get something larger and or reduce the heat loss you now have.
No need to drag on with this line of thinking...or Larry will be over to micro-analyze your system!!!! The little Train that Could, Can't. End of story. Sorry to put a pin in your balloon.
At least you know what output boiler won't work. Even at 165K with the oiler running, it won't satisfy demand. Nuff said......

For too many years all the minimalists have told me that oil and gas boilers should 'technically' be running 24 hrs a day on the closest day of the year.....THAT indicates 100% design efficiency.
Anyone who knows me even a little, KNOWS I think that is BULLSHIP! No need to drive a 1.6 liter powered twin turbo rig at 9500 rpm when you can drive a 502 and just touch the throttle.

Solid fuel equipment (boilers) likes an even demand, and an 'adequate' load, so if you have more demand than supply, you MUST logically up the ante, and balance the equation heavier on the supply side IMO.
I can't think of a single install over the years that runs more than 8 hrs a day in the very worst of conditions, so thats over 165 folks that are warm, not bitching about excessive coal usage, and laughing at their neighbors with the ProPain bill choking them. Oil was down in price this year, however the comfort is not even close to the same as coal heating. Relax, take your time, and market your LL110 and find yourself a larger heat producer. PS: It might be nice to add your general location, since lots of fine folks here on the forum might offer to help you become a happy camper again.

EarthWindandFire · Post by **EarthWindandFire** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 10:34 am

I see that rickcj7 has his boiler listed for sale. I'd be interested to see what boiler (and BTU size) he ends up buying.

rickcj7 · Post by **rickcj7** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 10:52 am

I'm going to get something with at least 150k BTU output.
The oil burner at 136k BTU was able to keep up but the coal at 95k BTU wasn't enough.

EarthWindandFire · Post by **EarthWindandFire** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 2:48 pm

The oil burner at 136k BTU was able to keep up but the coal at 95k BTU wasn't enough.

I've seen several posts regarding this issue. Leisure Line has a "void" in their burner lineup. They have the 70, 90 and 110k grates. The 70 and 90 are physically the same grate but the 90 has more holes tapped and the 110 burner is larger.

Leisure Line will have to make an investment in a new grate (about $ 10,000) that's somewhere around 150,000 btu's.

KLook · Post by **KLook** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 3:20 pm

I'm going to get something with at least 150k BTU output

I suggest reviewing more of what whistlenut had to say......

. If your oil boiler was only "able" to keep up at 136,000 Btu, then considering the slow recovery rate of any coal burner, you need to go big. I will not recommend one, but I am sure there are some guys in here with the where with all to advise you very well. It would be good to heed their advice. $$$

Kevin

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 3:30 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:
The oil burner at 136k BTU was able to keep up but the coal at 95k BTU wasn't enough.
I've seen several posts regarding this issue. Leisure Line has a "void" in their burner lineup. They have the 70, 90 and 110k grates. The 70 and 90 are physically the same grate but the 90 has more holes tapped and the 110 burner is larger.

Leisure Line will have to make an investment in a new grate (about $ 10,000) that's somewhere around 150,000 btu's.

70k x 2 grates = 140k , 70k+90k= 160k, 90k x 2 = 180k or 70k +110k = 180k ,no need for a new sized grate.

Scottscoaled · Post by **Scottscoaled** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 3:59 pm

Yeah! Use two boilers instead of one

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Tue. Mar. 10, 2015 5:06 pm

No need to buy 2 boilers,the 220 has 2 grates,i was only pointing out the possibilities of the 2 grate boiler,if LL should decide to market a unit in between their current 2 sizes.