Becoming discouraged with coal.....

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: kickincoalinNY On: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:47 pm

WHY!!! Are all my pictures flipped sideways?
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite
Other Heating: Propane


Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:06 pm

Cause them thar Smart Phones ain't really all that smart after all. :clap: toothy You're not the 1st with that problem Judy, me??? I got an old beat up Motorola trac phone that's not real smart, but it works:) Someone will come along & help ya with that.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:12 pm

kickincoalinNY wrote:WHY!!! Are all my pictures flipped sideways?


The default for "up" on an image is however the raw file is stored. Instead of processing and storing the file in it's raw format correctly making everyone's life easy it is using what was little used feature in the meta data that says "this end up". The forum software strips that information so it it displayed by it's default orientation. That will be getting fixed, in the mean time take your pictures with the camera landscape and make sure it's not "upside down".
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:31 pm

You mentioned it has been 3 - 4 months since you cleaned the flue pipes. In my opinion that is a long time and probably a lot of coal so I would suggest checking the horizontal section for fly ash.

A lot of us will suggest having a T in place of that 90* where it heads to the wall. You can uncap the T to make cleaning out that horizontal section very easy to do.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: kickincoalinNY On: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:04 am

titleist1 wrote:You mentioned it has been 3 - 4 months since you cleaned the flue pipes. In my opinion that is a long time and probably a lot of coal so I would suggest checking the horizontal section for fly ash.

A lot of us will suggest having a T in place of that 90* where it heads to the wall. You can uncap the T to make cleaning out that horizontal section very easy to do.



I peeked into the baro pipe and there is ash build up. I will clean the chimney out again this weekend and run to the local farm supply and pick up a t - pipe to install for easy clean out! Great advise....as usual.
kickincoalinNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite
Other Heating: Propane

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:31 am

If you get the chimney good and hot, get all the cleaning stuff ready, then close the stove dampers down almost all the way, you can open the tee cleanout cap and quickly vac that horizontal section without having to shut the stove down. Extending the chimney higher will add to that ability.

There will be enough residual heat in the chimney, plus with the stove draft restricted enough, the opened tee won't reverse flow. The chimney will still maintain enough draft so that it won't back draft through the open cleanout in the tee giving you several minutes to brush and vac the fly ash buildup out of the bottom of the horizontal section.

The colder the day is outside when you do that, the better it works and the more time you have to clean while the tee is opened.

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:09 pm

Here is the work around for the sideways cell pictures..


Sideways Pictures From Cell Phones
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:23 pm

Here is a pic of what I mentioned regarding the 'T'. This probably makes it clearer than my description.

With your low draft I would recommend you put a cap on the end where I have my baro. As SunnyBoy mentioned just remove the cap and quickly vac out the fly ash from the horizontal flue pipe. I usually do it after about each ton, i do get a little exhaust smell through the vac but if i do it fast enough the co monitor doesnt register a reading. if i am slow it will get to about 10 or 11.

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite


Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:56 am

I forgot to mention. Another plus for cleaning the pipe while the stove is still providing draft is that any fine fly ash dust you stir up gets sucked up and out the chimney.

If the pipe is cleaned when the stove is out and the pipe has cooled, the cold air in the chimney will naturally get drawn into the house. Then no matter how carefully the pipe is vacuumed and brushed, some fly ash always gets sucked into the house.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:46 pm

I have a really long vac hose, and the vac is outside. No smell or dust in the house whatsoever. The hose actually looks similar to a pool vac hose.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: LinMar On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:34 am

I feel your pain, I have run into similar problems. I had to get a draft inducer for mine as my chimney was so tall (two story) to keep a good draft. I have also discovered I have to clean out the fly ash from the vents and stove pipe every 2 ton that I burn. That's a pain when it's in the single digits because my furnace has two inside vents that fill so I have to completely shut down to clean it.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Piece of Junk
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:45 am

any status on this? you still burning your stove this winter? hope you got it figured out.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
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Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: kickincoalinNY On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:22 am

Hi Dave...No. I ended up selling the stove and going with an easy to use thermostat :) I LOVED the coal stove and the heat it produced but I didn't care for the maintenance. :(
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite
Other Heating: Propane

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:49 pm

I guess you gave up - shame.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Becoming discouraged with coal.....

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:12 pm

kickincoalinNY wrote: I LOVED the coal stove and the heat it produced but I didn't care for the maintenance.


This is something a lot of people don't realize when they look for alternative heat fuel whether it is pellets, wood or coal. It is kind of a hobby when you go to solid fuel.

There is a commitment to self maintenance that is not there with oil, gas or propane where you call someone to fill the tank call someone to service it once per year and then just turn the 'stat. Then you hope it doesn't c rap out in the middle of winter where you get put 20th on the list of repairs for the service guy! If you want real maintenance free just go all electric!!
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite