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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Sun. Mar. 22, 2015 8:39 pm

Well I may have just run across my first antique stove. I would love to replace the Harman in my house with an antique base burner. I found a King Clermont #461. Looks a little rough but would love to get it for a fixer upper. Owner said trim on top is missing and has some breaks. I see some breaks in lower trim. Back top right fire chamber area looks like it has been welded. Need some help

Question: This is my first time to do this so I really do not know what to look for. What should I eyeball to ensure I do not get a total junker. I live in Alaska so parts are going to be difficult at best. I really want to know where the lines in the sand are so I do not get something thinking I am good and then put it to use and case peril to my home.

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Post by jubileejerry » Sun. Mar. 22, 2015 9:47 pm

Could you get any pictures of it? I don't know what a King Clermont looks like, and would like to see it. The guys on here like that too, and I KNOW they will help you make a good decision. Jerry

 
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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Sun. Mar. 22, 2015 11:03 pm

few pics for every one almost thinking just jump on it but if it is going to take tons of work and still might not be burnable then I do not want to ... time is limited for me right now. Also parts is an issue possibly.

thoughts ... this would look beautiful in my log cabin though and replace my TLC 2000 or even my barn

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Post by Photog200 » Mon. Mar. 23, 2015 7:42 am

The parts shown that are cracked or broken do not look critical to the stove's operation. These parts look like they would be able to be repaired and then recast. However, with these cracked pieces, it would send up a red flag to make sure and check out the rest of the stove for cracks. The parts that would be critical for cracks would be the fire pot, grates, and the base. Personally, I would not buy this stove without looking very carefully at those parts.

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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Mon. Mar. 23, 2015 11:38 am

thanks... I assume that if they are cracked or broken there is really not much you can do without overspending on the stove?

 
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Post by wsherrick » Mon. Mar. 23, 2015 2:30 pm

This is a really neat and unusual stove. It is a double heater equipped circulator that is exceedingly beautiful. The Gem City Stove Co that made it made a very famous, high quality stove called the German Heater.
The stove here may be have a hot blast design fire box. The dampers seem to indicate that. I can't be sure without seeing the inside.
All of that being said, I would pass on this stove.
I have a rule. If the stove is incomplete in any area don't buy it. If the stove has serious cracks anywhere don't buy it.
You probably never find the rest of the parts for it and you would spend a lot of time and money on something that you may or may not be able to use.
Take you time and look. A stove will show up.

 
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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Mon. Mar. 23, 2015 9:49 pm

The owner just texted me and said the only broken areas are those that are pictured. He "SAID" that the fire pot is good. I am a 2-3 hour drive away so that is why I am asking questions via text. The reason I was so excited and still am to some degree is that in Alaska these DO NOT show up. We are not fortunate like you guys in the NE. I have been looking for months nearly a year and this is the only stove to show up... not even a junker has been posted. I would love to have it in my house but without all the show me parts I would not want it in the house... just thought it might be a good shop stove... using it is important.. like WSHERRICK said I do not want a total project stove that cost me a ton of money and a ton of time to get a fire in it. I will take this advise into account but with this post is it still a NO or Maybe.
By the way can get it for under 200


 
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Post by Buck47 » Mon. Mar. 23, 2015 10:07 pm

AlaskaCoal1 wrote:The owner just texted me and said the only broken areas are those that are pictured. He "SAID" that the fire pot is good. I am a 2-3 hour drive away so that is why I am asking questions via text. The reason I was so excited and still am to some degree is that in Alaska these DO NOT show up. We are not fortunate like you guys in the NE. I have been looking for months nearly a year and this is the only stove to show up... not even a junker has been posted. I would love to have it in my house but without all the show me parts I would not want it in the house... just thought it might be a good shop stove... using it is important.. like WSHERRICK said I do not want a total project stove that cost me a ton of money and a ton of time to get a fire in it. I will take this advise into account but with this post is it still a NO or Maybe.
By the way can get it for under 200
Why not take a few hours and drive over and see the stove first hand. Look it over very carefully. All it would cost is a few hours drive time and some Gas. At least you would know for sure if in fact the damage is superficial, or it's a walk away wreck.

Myself --- I could drive a long way for a stove like that priced at $200.00.

A few broken parts - I can get fixed ---- However missing parts for me is a deal breaker.

But then, that's me.

Good luck.

 
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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 3:22 am

I think I will drive over... there are missing part though Buck so it would be a walk away for you. After reviewing the pictures it appears that the glass on the front is broken in some places... I most definite need. I think I will also contact some of the antique restoration guys like you guys have in the NE and see if parts are even an option. If they tell me no go then there is really no use. I would love to have it but it has to have a J...O....B otherwise it is just stuff in my barn.

Just to recap .... fire pot, door, and bricks are my main concern ... Correct. Anything else I should take a magnifying glass to?

I love this forum... went from a guy who never had even seen coal to heating my house with it.... I LOVE IT. I helped a neighbor with our 10 cords of wood this weekend (some of it (2 cords are mine for spring and fall days... I SWORE TO NEVER BY A WOOD ONLY BOILER.. to much work and I still have 250 bucks a cord in it.. now I have to split, haul and stack it. Keep digging I love burnable rocks.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 6:35 am

Here is one way to look at it (if you want).

If the firepot and grates are in serviceable condition. You've got a working coal stove for under 200 bucks. That in itself, is something to consider. And the stove does look nice the way it is.

You can order the 'mica' that's in the door, and install it yourself. and as far as the cracked trim......Hell, just superglue it together :shock: ;) and touch it up.

 
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Post by nortcan » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 8:12 am

For under $200. the stove would come home. Most broken parts can be repaired. No finial is bad but the stove doesn't know that :D and will heat anyway.
But having the stove in front of you will be the best thing to do for an evaluation.
Good luck and keep on posting the results.

 
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Post by blrman07 » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 8:37 am

nortcan wrote:For under $200. the stove would come home. Most broken parts can be repaired. No finial is bad but the stove doesn't know that :D and will heat anyway.
But having the stove in front of you will be the best thing to do for an evaluation.
Good luck and keep on posting the results.
I agree with Nortcan....The stove doesn't know it's finial is missing. If your looking to do a 100% authentic restoration then this is one to pass on. If your looking to get a stove that will burn what you put in it, this may be the one. The trim cracks are not deal breakers for me like I said unless your doing a 100% authentic resoration. If not, pick one up off ebay that comes close and burn the stove. The heart is the firepot and guts, not the trim.

 
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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 11:24 am

Done I am heading south to look at it. there is a rash and out break and epidemic here in the state. Another stove just posted. A North Star Parlor stove. They want just under 3K for it. They "SAY" that it is 100% restored. Pretty stove I will try to post some pics of it.

 
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Post by AlaskaCoal1 » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 11:30 am

Here are some pics of the North Star. This one is really south of me. I do not have time to mess with this one right now. What do you guys think about the price of this stove given the fact that is suppose to be good to go.

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Post by franco b » Tue. Mar. 24, 2015 10:57 pm

My first criteria would be what type of stove best burns the coal I have available.
I don't think that would be a stove primarily designed for anthracite.


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