Is the Glenwood 111 Baseburner Big Enough for Me?

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 3:01 pm

I might go look at a 111, the guy said its in good condition with a relined pot, hes asking 1800. Im looking to heat my 2000sq ft 93 year old drafty windy home first floor install. I currently heat with the channing and use 4.5-5 tons. should I jump on the 111 or wait and buy a restored #6. Idk if ill be getting the heat I need with the small 11" fire pot?


 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 3:11 pm

Neither would be my first choice if your house is broken up like mine. Yep they're real purty--BUTTTTTTTTT, I don't like a chilly house like people did back when

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 3:27 pm

Don't let the 11 inch pot fool you, it's 14 inches deep and holds about 40 pounds of coal - close to that of a #6. They throw a lot of heat for their size.

Only thing I see that would steer me away is they have a draw center grate instead of the better triangular grates of the #6.

Back up to the "Hand Fired Coal Stoves" section and do a search using "111" and you'll find lots to read about.

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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 4:17 pm

While your doin that, note what the houses are like they are heating--size, lay-out, how many stoves they are using, etc. THey are good stoves but they have their limitations. My old Glenwood did real well heating a smaller(1600 sq) wide open log cabin in Vt. back when but would never do this old farm house I have now. Just sayin. Ya only want to do this one more time I'd suspect.
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Post by scalabro » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 6:04 pm

Canaan coal man wrote:I might go look at a 111, the guy said its in good condition with a relined pot, hes asking 1800. Im looking to heat my 2000sq ft 93 year old drafty windy home first floor install. I currently heat with the channing and use 4.5-5 tons. should I jump on the 111 or wait and buy a restored #6. Idk if ill be getting the heat I need with the small 11" fire pot?
Take a lot of detailed high resolution pictures and post them for us to see, please.

$1800 is a lot for a stove that has not come straight from restoration and it's my feeling a professionally restored G6 will be about $1000 more.

As far as if it will soley heat your house, well......no matter what anybody here says, it's totally opinion until you install it and run it in January / February.

One other thing I've found with these old stoves.....bigger is almost always better.

 
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Post by joeq » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 6:51 pm

I just picked up a 111 a couple months ago, and am "impatiently" waiting to put it to the test. If you want to wait a season, I'll fill you in on the results. If you want to see it, "c'mon down" for a visit. (And yes, "another" Ct neighbor) We need to take a poll, and see how many members are from this state. The "mental" state. :)

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:19 pm

joeq wrote:I just picked up a 111 a couple months ago, and am "impatiently" waiting to put it to the test. If you want to wait a season, I'll fill you in on the results. If you want to see it, "c'mon down" for a visit. (And yes, "another" Ct neighbor) We need to take a poll, and see how many members are from this state. The "mental" state. :)
I just finished watching your vids and read the 16 page post on the 111 thank you very informative
This stove isn't really set up for wood rite? I'm really leaning toward a refurbed #6 base heater Becuase it's made for wood a little better,Also what we're u useing for lbs per 12 hr tend?


 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:22 pm

scalabro wrote:
Canaan coal man wrote:I might go look at a 111, the guy said its in good condition with a relined pot, hes asking 1800. Im looking to heat my 2000sq ft 93 year old drafty windy home first floor install. I currently heat with the channing and use 4.5-5 tons. should I jump on the 111 or wait and buy a restored #6. Idk if ill be getting the heat I need with the small 11" fire pot?
Take a lot of detailed high resolution pictures and post them for us to see, please.

$1800 is a lot for a stove that has not come straight from restoration and it's my feeling a professionally restored G6 will be about $1000 more.

As far as if it will soley heat your house, well......no matter what anybody here says, it's totally opinion until you install it and run it in January / February.

One other thing I've found with these old stoves.....bigger is almost always better.
I talked to Wilson at Wilson stoves last Sunday he said I'm looken at 3000 give or take for a g6 refurb
I'm tempted to save a little more and go for a road trip this summer with a pocket full of cash I'm still a little Leary on the 11 in fire pot

 
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Post by scalabro » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:27 pm

I've not been to Wilsons treasure trove, but somehow I don't think you will be disappointed :dancing:

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:31 pm

freetown fred wrote:Neither would be my first choice if your house is broken up like mine. Yep they're real purty--BUTTTTTTTTT, I don't like a chilly house like people did back when
Fred Iv got a dealer that's 2miles from we're I work. I can get 50-93 tomorrow if I want. I really like that I'd have a dealer so close. Iv almost done it a few times it would do everything I need. But I really like how base burners sips the coal. That's the main reason I want one is to save more money on my heating cost. How dose ur 50-93 perform as far as lbs per day? Say on a 40 degree day and a 10 degree day? What stove, stack temps are you seeing?

 
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Post by Merc300d » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:32 pm

freetown fred wrote:While your doin that, note what the houses are like they are heating--size, lay-out, how many stoves they are using, etc. THey are good stoves but they have their limitations. My old Glenwood did real well heating a smaller(1600 sq) wide open log cabin in Vt. back when but would never do this old farm house I have now. Just sayin. Ya only want to do this one more time I'd suspect.

Fred .... Are you saying your hitzer heats your house better than a glenwood #6 would ? Maybe I read this wrong. Could you explain it to me :|

 
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Post by joeq » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:50 pm

Ah, yes, and the "fun" begins! :D

 
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Post by wsherrick » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 7:53 pm

A Glenwood 111 is one of the most highly efficient stoves ever designed. It is a base heater with a suspended, internal fire pot. These produce great heat for small amounts of coal. Similar designs such as the Crawfords, Magees, Heralds all operate at similar unsurpassed levels of radiant and combustion efficiency. The type of grates are a matter of preference.
These stoves are Anthracite only units though. They are specifically designed to burn that fuel. Wood or Soft Coal won't do well in them.
If you want multi fuel ability then you will require one of the Oak type Base Heaters such as a Glenwood No 6.
And to answer the original question. A No 111 should be able to do a very good job of heating the space you have.

 
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Post by scalabro » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 8:11 pm

Squire William has spoken :)

I can say that my Crawford 40 heated a 2450 sq ft two story colonial, pretty much by itself this winter on an average of 42 lbs a day. Very capable indeed.

 
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Post by tmbrddl » Thu. Mar. 26, 2015 8:12 pm

joeq wrote:We need to take a poll, and see how many members are from this state. The "mental" state. :)
There's a fellow who is a member here who hails from the same podunk town I do way up here in northern Maine. I've met him personally a couple times but forget his user name.

Definitely a mind meld when it comes to coal


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