Researching is a pain in the butt

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PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:17 pm

Yes the Riverway was an institution along with their dressing. It used to be the place where the old folks,we called them "cotton heads", went. It was sold and remodeled to a more hip place but the dressing stayed, it was that good!
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:52 am

Devil5052 wrote:Personaly, I've never heard of a wood/coalstove store that does sell wood or coal. Kinda like trying to find a car dealership that sells gas! Just decide which stove you want & buy it from a dealer. The coal you should be able to find almost anywhere.



I've never asked a wood stove place about buying wood from them before but I know they sell pellets for their pellet stoves, it's just the ones around here don't carry coal for their coal stoves. One place FirePlace Village the guy told me he used to carry it but keeping up with all the different sizes wasn't worth the time and energy it took to do it.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:55 am

sandman wrote:
check out
HEART LINE
ROUTE 137 NORTH
JAFFREY, NH 03452
603-532-4513


theve got a bunch of stoves. i bought my stoker boiler there (there first coal boiler sale)

they do mostly pellet stoves but have coal stoves and furnaces on the showroom floor.

jim


Thanks Jim, they are one of the guys on my list. They only sell Harmon and don't sell coal. I think that will be the place we'll stop at to see the Harmon line the next time we go up to NH.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:30 am

Even though so many of the manufacturers and dealers are not internet savvy, imagine trying to research any product before purchasing without doing research online. When I am considering a purchase the first place I go is the internet. Sure makes things a lot easier and time-saving.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:41 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:Even though so many of the manufacturers and dealers are not internet savvy, imagine trying to research any product before purchasing without doing research online. When I am considering a purchase the first place I go is the internet. Sure makes things a lot easier and time-saving.
Absolutely, it helps knowing when sales people are trying to BS you.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:54 am

I buy most of my things online and if I can't I really try and find out everything I can before stepping into a showroom. The biggest thing I want to know is how low the price can go so I know how much wiggle room the sales person really has to knock the price down. Just say no to retail! 8-)
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: BearKnot On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:04 pm

Coal Jockey wrote: “I've found this sort of thing quite common with email inquiries. Frankly I think that companies get so much garbage email that they don't take seriously the legitimate email they receive.”


I’m confused, CJ. :?

Why would Alaska Stove Co., or any other company for that matter, invite potential customers to “Contact Us” if they are not going to take such e-mail seriously? :?

Since your email was serious, & so was mine, why not deal with it in a timely fashion?

Imo Harman & Alaska are suffering from snafu-itus which, if not dealt with immediately, will definitely result in their lose of market share, at best, or bankruptcy at worst. :shock:

It’s like
Wood’nCoal said: “… imagine trying to research any product before purchasing without doing research online. When I am considering a purchase the first place I go is the internet. Sure makes things a lot easier and time-saving.”

about which SPC seconded.

The intelligent consumer has had enough of buying “a pig in a poke“ & are going to use the internet to ensure that they get factual info in order to make a wise purchase at the best price. Any company stiffing them, unless the co. already has a captured & guaranteed market, like Western Electric had with the Bell system prior to Judge Green’s breakup, will soon discover the futility of swimming against the business tide.

While the CEO, CFO, CIO, etc can have their grunts sing & clap like Wal-Mart employees do, those antics are not going to save their business unless they employ the entire Wal-Mart business model. While the Wal-Mart crew are not the quickest in answering questions, nevertheless they always answered mine on the same visit.

Two months & yet no response speaks volumes. :x

Anyway, have a good one, CJ. ;)
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Ed.A On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:51 am

spc wrote:These guys are in Ma. & sell coal & stoves. I never used them though.
http://csmenergy.com/media.html


That's where I bought my Channing! Great people to deal with IMO. They have floor models of the different brands they carry to do comparisons, helped alot with the decision making proccess.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:22 am

That place is near where my father in law lives so we're going to try and check it out this month. What are some of you local guys paying for coal and what brand is it and have you heard of or tried from any of these places that I have on my list?


Copied and pasted from the Pea-Nut thread:

My email from Blaschak Coal Corp. gave me one local dealer in Westminster at an Aubuchon Hardware store, but according to Aubuchon Hardware's website they don't have a store there. I did get a hold of one in Orange, Ma that sells it for 370.20 a pallet which he says is 60 40lb bags which equals to 2400lb. Which seems a little high to me, 10 extra bags for almost one third of other prices quotes? A place in Keene (Chabott Coal Co.) sells the Blaschak for 297 a ton pickup or 2 ton min delivered for $5 a loaded mile times about 24 miles is another $120 bucks :(

Spuria's sells a brand called Ventura Coal? I guess it's out of Littleton,MA for 280 a ton $60 bucks for 3 ton min delivery or That allow people to buy it and store it there for free and they can come and take some as they need it, which doesn't sound to bad for people with no storage space.

Agway sells there own Agway brand of coal, have no idea who's inside their bag? Keene,NH says they have it for 282 a ton and delivered for $50. Gardner, Ma says it for 8.99 a bag, when asked about cost per ton the little old lady says "I don't think we ever sold a ton of it before". :lol:

National Coal Co. in Worcester,Ma says Blaschak coal for 300 a ton but with me at 49 miles away I am out of their delivery range. :(

Bernardston Farmers Supply has Reading coal bagged at 285 a ton and bulk at 235 a ton. Will deliver a 2 ton min for $5 a loaded mile at about 45 miles comes to $225 bucks.

Agway and Spuria's have the best price so far that I could find but have no idea on their generic brand of coal. This is turning out to really be a chore spending the last two days on the phone searching for coal and coal prices. I think so far the Harmon TLC-2000 seems like the stove for us being it seems to offer what we need.



I tried looking up Ventura Coal online and I don't see anything on them. The lady at the store said they were from Littleton,Ma? Anyone heard of or used them before?
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:40 am

Looking at non heating coil stoves so far after reading about them on here and through the online manual I like the Harmon TLC. It seems to offer a long burn time and a large ash pan for the lowest price so far and it can run without electricity. For a heated coil stove I tried looking up LL because I've seen some prices on them but they don't have any of their manual's online for people to look at, seems a bit out of the times. Anybody have any recommendation's for a Coal stove that comes with a heating coil? I really like something that has the option of running without electricity for those rare days when it might be needed.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:00 am

I tried looking up Ventura Coal online and I don't see anything on them. The lady at the store said they were from Littleton,Ma? Anyone heard of or used them before?


Ventura Coal and Grain, Taunton, MA.

http://www.venturagraininc.com/homeheating.html

When I called Ventura they said they were bagging Kimmels Coal. The local hardware store carries it.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:16 am

CapeCoaler wrote:
I tried looking up Ventura Coal online and I don't see anything on them. The lady at the store said they were from Littleton,Ma? Anyone heard of or used them before?


Ventura Coal and Grain, Taunton, MA.

http://www.venturagraininc.com/homeheating.html

When I called Ventura they said they were bagging Kimmels Coal. The local hardware store carries it.



Thanks CapeCoaler. :)

Does anyone know anything about Kimmels Coal? There web site isn't very plain http://www.kimmelcoal.com/
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Coal Jockey On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:33 pm

Adamiscold wrote:
CapeCoaler wrote:
I tried looking up Ventura Coal online and I don't see anything on them. The lady at the store said they were from Littleton,Ma? Anyone heard of or used them before?


Ventura Coal and Grain, Taunton, MA.

http://www.venturagraininc.com/homeheating.html

When I called Ventura they said they were bagging Kimmels Coal. The local hardware store carries it.



Thanks CapeCoaler. :)

Does anyone know anything about Kimmels Coal? There web site isn't very plain http://www.kimmelcoal.com/


adamiscold,
I can vouch for Kimmels being good coal. I burn it and am a dealer. Some may have gotten a bad batch and gotten sour, but I've not experienced any of that. It may be because of the fact that I source mine from a broker/importer here and Kimmels ships only the best across the border for export. Either way, It is fine coal in 50lb bags.
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:43 pm

Thanks Coal Jockey :)
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Re: Researching is a pain in the butt

PostBy: Ed.A On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:40 pm

Adam, CSM bags their own as well. Cost wise...255 per ton, I don't know what brand it is but I bought a ton of theirs and a ton of Blashak and I can honestly say that I see no difference in burnability ( is that even a word?) CSM sells 50lbs bags in lieu of 40lb Blashak wetted bags. Can't go wrong either way IMO.
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