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livefreeordie · By: **livefreeordie** On: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:06 pm

livefreeordie wrote:Thanks Daveuz & Bonehead for the ideas.
I will look deeper into them.

I posted a request on uship yesterday, asking for a quote on 17+ ton hauled to my town in NH from the Superior breaker in Valley View PA. I got a good number of responses with guys asking me for more info & telling me they'd get back to me.
Pretty cool site. You can include pictures & descriptions. The guys who provide the quotes are all members & the site tracks the satisfaction other shippers have had with each hauler & gives them a rating.
One guy asked if he could get a 38' dump trailer on to my property & would I take a delivery of 20 ton. I have the room & I replied "show me what you got!"

If I don't have the cash to afford all 20ton, once I get more info I'll ask if any other New Englanders would like to split this up with me.

If I can pay for all 20ton, then I could have all my heat & hot water taken care of for the next 5+ years for about the same as about 4+ months of oil at todays prices!!!!!!!!

Wood'nCoal · By: **Wood'nCoal** On: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:51 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:coal berner can give you the low down. but in a recent post he advised against them.

No Hegins There are selling the breaker and the Quality is not good using up what is laying around Go to either of the other two Much Better Quality Superior coal is Pulling out of the Primrose Vein & the Buck mountain vein Summit is Pulling out of The Primrose vein The Holems vein The Mammoth top split the Mammoth Middel split the Middel Mammoth Bottom split veins The Skidmore vein also The Seven Foot vein The lower Four Foot vein & Buck Mountain vein

Maybe you can convince C&T Coal Co. to pick up from a different breaker and help everybody out? Again ask coal berner for some help.

Agreed. Be careful and do the research first before you spend your hard earned money. Nothing worse then getting stuck with a ton or more of crummy strip-mined or refuse coal.

coal berner · By: **coal berner** On: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:21 am

Adamiscold wrote:I found a company called C&T Coal Co. right out of Baldwinville,Ma three minutes right up the street not in the phone book or online. They sell the cheapest price coal I've found yet for free local delivery 235 a ton bulk and 260 a ton bagged. They get their coal from a placed called Higgins mining? Again don't find anything on them on Google. It seems to be an older couple who do it part time, she says the kids are grown up and moved on and her husband works a full time job and does the coal part time. He used to go and pick the coal up himself but that got to expensive so now he has it delivered.

As you can tell she is a very friendly lady, I don't know if the coal is any good or not but at that price he must be getting one hell of a deal on having it delivered. Seems as though it might be worth talking to him to find out who he is using and see if you can work something out with them to bring you the coal you want from PA.

Hi Ademiscold Here is some info
if I were you I would look for a better breaker with better coal Higins is not getting good coal anymore Lots of shale rocks & sticks try the third fourth fifth & sixth link All Coal is loose bulk Bagged coal is twice the price even here where they mine it & bag it 6 to 8 miles away

http://www.local.com/details/8866238/tr ... ng-co.aspx 135.00 A ton Picked up at breaker

http://www.local.com/details/49997085/t ... eaker.aspx same place as above

http://www.local.com/details/8550561/he ... p-llc.aspx 140.00 a ton Picked up

http://www.local.com/details/8857170/tr ... e-inc.aspx 140.00 a ton Picked up

http://www.local.com/details/8977804/mo ... assoc.aspx 130.00 a ton Picked up

http://www.local.com/details/16374313/s ... -coal.aspx 130.00 a ton Picked up

Adamiscold · By: **Adamiscold** On: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:52 am

Well I'm glad I asked. Figured it was too good of a price for it to be anything worth getting into. I might try talking to them and seeing if the couple would interested in switching over at some point in time? Don't hurt to ask.

Thanks guys for the information.

Hey Colm you looking at bulk or bagged coal?

livefreeordie · By: **livefreeordie** On: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:35 pm

Adamiscold wrote:Hey Colm you looking at bulk or bagged coal?

Looking for bulk. Funnily enough, one of the guys who's working on getting me a shipping quote, says a buddy of his does the same thing, but he lives closer to the coal area. He also said his buddy rents a scale & a bagging machine to divide up the load among the folks who went in on the cost.
I've no idea where I might find a large scale & bagging machine for rent, but I've a few places I can start looking. If I find anything out I'll post it here.

Anyone else heard of stuff like that for rent?

Thanks.

Adamiscold · By: **Adamiscold** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:21 am

Seems if you could find something like that available for rent that it would have to come from one of those heavy duty industrial rental places. I don't think any low end rental place would have anything like that. I guess if you asked your friend where he rented his that they might know someone locally that would have it?

coal berner · By: **coal berner** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:27 pm

livefreeordie wrote:
Adamiscold wrote:Hey Colm you looking at bulk or bagged coal?

Looking for bulk. Funnily enough, one of the guys who's working on getting me a shipping quote, says a buddy of his does the same thing, but he lives closer to the coal area. He also said his buddy rents a scale & a bagging machine to divide up the load among the folks who went in on the cost.
I've no idea where I might find a large scale & bagging machine for rent, but I've a few places I can start looking. If I find anything out I'll post it here.

Anyone else heard of stuff like that for rent?

Thanks.

you can buy one of these and sell the coal

http://www.controlandmetering.com/?gcli ... HgodREfLTQ

http://www.rotochopper.com/Bagging_Solutions.php

http://www.traceypackaging.com/store.as ... atid=19640

livefreeordie · By: **livefreeordie** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:52 pm

coal berner wrote:
you can buy one of these and sell the coal

http://www.traceypackaging.com/store.as ... atid=19640

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The more I look into this, the more I'm appreciating why we're paying more up here in this corner of the country. May be more than we'd like to but ..

So if I could buy coal in PA at $135 per ton & get it to my yard for $800 for 20 ton, that would be $175 per ton. If I bagged it & sold it for $220 per ton, I would need to sell 1,000 ton to pay off my bagging machine investment. :shock:

Wait till I run this business plan past the girlfriend ... "but honey, after that it's all clear profit!!" :rofl:

Now if only granite would burn ....

coal berner · By: **coal berner** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:17 pm

livefreeordie wrote:
coal berner wrote:
you can buy one of these and sell the coal

http://www.traceypackaging.com/store.as ... atid=19640

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The more I look into this, the more I'm appreciating why we're paying more up here in this corner of the country. May be more than we'd like to but ..

So if I could buy coal in PA at $135 per ton & get it to my yard for $800 for 20 ton, that would be $175 per ton. If I bagged it & sold it for $220 per ton, I would need to sell 1,000 ton to pay off my bagging machine investment.

Wait till I run this business plan past the girlfriend ... "but honey, after that it's all clear profit!!"

Now if only granite would burn ....

Now you are talking about Hegins coal for 135.00 Not very good Quality coal
there are much better Quality Anthracite very close to Hegins for 140.00 a ton and if you drive about 20 north you will get 130.00 a ton Now it should come down in the next few months hopefully it all will depend on what the Fuel cost will be it might not come down it my stay the same or go up

coal berner · By: **coal berner** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:18 pm

I like this one myself

http://www.rotochopper.com/Bagging_Solutions.php

Adamiscold · By: **Adamiscold** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:03 pm

I heard back from Blaschak Coal Corp. again and she gave me the following list that sell their product.

The Stove Place - Shrewsbury, MA - 508-754-7091
Knisley Construction in Greenville, NH - 603-878-3388
Chabott Coal - Keene, NH - 603-352-0343
Barrows - Brattleboro, VT - 802-257-7385
Complete Sweep Chimney Service - Nashua, NH - 800-395-2883
North East Coal - Pelham, NH - 603-893-4640

coal berner · By: **coal berner** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:19 pm

And if you to Blaschak breaker's you will buy it for 165.00 a ton bulk loose witch is Pretty high for coal around here :lol:

daveuz · By: **daveuz** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:23 pm

coal berner wrote:I like this one myself

http://www.rotochopper.com/Bagging_Solutions.php

Here is what I can afford as far as bagging it. http://www.spdconline.org/history/Build ... veling.JPG

coal berner · By: **coal berner** On: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:22 pm

daveuz wrote:
coal berner wrote:I like this one myself

http://www.rotochopper.com/Bagging_Solutions.php
Here is what I can afford as far as bagging it. http://www.spdconline.org/history/Build ... veling.JPG

OH yes the good old days :lol:

Adamiscold · By: **Adamiscold** On: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:20 am

daveuz wrote:
coal berner wrote:I like this one myself

http://www.rotochopper.com/Bagging_Solutions.php
Here is what I can afford as far as bagging it.

I don't think I could even afford to hire myself to do that

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