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Post by joeq » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 7:12 pm

Sunny Boy wrote: If you look at a lot of pictures from the later half of the 1800's, you'll see that when they put stoves toward the middle of the space to be heated, very often they didn't go straight up with the pipe. They'd go up only enough to give head room and then run the pipe horizontal on a shallow up-angle through a wall to a chimney. That was done to keep as much heat indoors, as well as help distribute it across a room. And, some of the horizontal pipe runs got quite long in commercial buildings and churches.
Paul
I could see this being beneficial with a wood stove, where all the heat is going up the chimney, but with a BB, isn't the stove pipe running cool?
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 8:38 pm

Yes, it can help with a wood stove, as long as the flue gas temps don't get too low, then you can start getting creosote buildup.

For direct draft stoves it can help recover some of that heat going up the pipe.

And, yes, you don't need a lot of pipe indoors with a base heater, or back pipe oak,.

However, some of the base heaters still send quite a bit of heat up the stack when running to get the most heat output during really cold weather. Not uncommon to hear guys mention pipe temps of 200, or more, while running in base heater mode. That's higher pipe surface temps than is needed to maintain a good draft. Having a bit longer indoor single wall pipe will help recover some of that without having to slow the fire down so that the stove is then producing less heat.

Paul
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Post by scalabro » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 8:40 pm

As an aside, horizontal pipes collect massive amounts of fly ash in short order.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 8:49 pm

scalabro wrote:As an aside, horizontal pipes collect massive amounts of fly ash in short order.

Ask me how I know :D
Gotta open the dampers now and then and let it roar in direct draft to get that fly ash to fly ! :D

I forgot to clean the horizontal section one year. :oops: Thought for sure it had to be major plugged. It was only 1-1/2 inches deep at the deepest point near a bend. Here's a pic of what was in the bottom of the pipe after two long heating seasons with the range. That's about 6 tons of coal had been burned in the range in that two years. The bulk of the fly ash was in the bottom of the chimney, up to near the top of the cleanout door. The pipe comes into the chimney about 6 feet above that. :roll:

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Post by tmbrddl » Sun. Mar. 29, 2015 9:59 pm

McGiever wrote:This is a interesting read on the Anthracite History...

http://huberbreaker.org/home/history/history-of-a ... te-region/
It sure was. Thank you!

 
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Post by wilsons woodstoves » Mon. Mar. 30, 2015 8:28 am

Very good reading, Thank you

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