Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:20 pm

What President really influenced gas prices? The Carter Administration began a phased decontrol of oil prices. If President Bush did that you would have an argument.
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:48 pm

spc wrote:What President really influenced gas prices? The Carter Administration began a phased decontrol of oil prices. If President Bush did that you would have an argument.







What President Carter did was public, transparent & intended to benefit this country, whether he was right or wrong.
What Bush has done is secret, opaque & intended to benefit George Bush & his oil company buddies....& that is just wrong.

Besides, we come at this from different places:
In my view, Jimmy Carter was an ineffective President but was & is a very moral man & a good Ex-President with good intentions.

On the other hand, in my view, George Bush is an even less effective President ........No, I think that is really to kind....he isn't just less effective...he has been devastating to this country & to the world in general. He has no morality, was born to priviledge & never had to work a day in his life, has never accepted responsibilty for anything, is not a bright man, believes he is above the law & Constitution, enjoys being surrounded by non-threatening "Yes Men" that he can understand & will undoubtedly be as much a failure at being an "Ex-president" as he is at being the current one......Wow...did that feel good!!
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:10 pm

Devil5052 wrote:What President Carter did was public, transparent & intended to benefit this country, whether he was right or wrong.
Why don't you give President Bush the benefit of being right or wrong? He thinks the Iraq war is the right thing to do to protect America.
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:18 pm

spc wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:What President Carter did was public, transparent & intended to benefit this country, whether he was right or wrong.
Why don't you give President Bush the benefit of being right or wrong? He thinks the Iraq war is the right thing to do to protect America.


I have no doubt that is what he thinks, but the man is an idiot ......& I really dont care what an idiot thinks. :roll:


edit: Being a bit glib here but just having fun! (I am serious though)
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:51 pm

Well I guess the American people are idiots for voting him in for 2 terms. The name calling is childish & doesn't help move the debate. It seems that is what the left does when their arguments falls short but it does make them, "feel good!!".

On another point, why don't we drill in ANWR.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/216188_anwr16.html
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:00 pm

spc wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:What President Carter did was public, transparent & intended to benefit this country, whether he was right or wrong.
Why don't you give President Bush the benefit of being right or wrong? He thinks the Iraq war is the right thing to do to protect America.


Sure he believes in it. And maybe in the Easter Bunny too.

19 of 22 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Did we invade there? We invaded Afghanistan in pursuit of OBL with broad international support.

But then he saw the opportunity to trump up the intelligence against Saddam, who we must remember had tried to knock off his father, in order to pursue the invasion he always wanted. Sorry, but that's not a passable national security justification IMO.

And at the end of the day, the cost of the Iraq invasion is projected to reach $3 Trillion ($3,000,000,000,000.00) dollars. That's a lot of health care, tax cuts, education, whatever your favorite happens to be. And Joe Biden revealed last week that the grand total we've spent to date in Afghanistan (where the situation is deteriorating and, in case you didn't know, we still haven't gotten OBL) is about one week's worth of what we spend in Iraq.

Any wonder the Prez is at, what, 32%?
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:06 pm

Thats the cost of freedom.
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:10 pm

spc wrote:Well I guess the American people are idiots for voting him in for 2 terms. The name calling is childish & doesn't help move the debate. It seems that is what the left does when their arguments falls short but it does make them, "feel good!!".

On another point, why don't we drill in ANWR.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/216188_anwr16.html
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I agree about the name calling being childish....but sometimes being childish just feels so good! :D
I do apologize for lowering the debate....but let me try what the reporters always resort to when they want to make a point:
"President Bush.....What do you say to your critics who call you an idiot?"

(having fun here but you can get away with alot by just begining each assertion with: "President Bush.....What do you say to your critics who ...................."


As far as ...."the American people are idiots for voting him in for 2 terms." I will just stand by the old Nixon era bumper sticker: Don't blame me...I'm from Massachusetts
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:17 pm

spc wrote:Thats the cost of freedom.




I just lost my lunch!
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:19 pm

Devil5052 wrote:
spc wrote:What is the President's first responsibility?


In my opinion to be honest & honorable! (the rest will naturaly follow)



I hope to hell that you didn't like Clinton!! or Want Billary to be elected!! Lets see, Rose Law Firm, Monica, Filegate's 'lost files' , Foster's 'suicide', the list goes on and on... Hillary stealing the white house furnishings, and having to give them back... what a slime-ball family!!

Why do you think they call him 'Teflon Bill' ??? He and Hillary wallowed in more illegal *censored* than any five presidents, and none of it stuck...His name "Slick Willey" is not just for the saliva on his crank !! Which he bald-faced lied to the country about.

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Back on subject, the slanted media has done such a good smear job on Buxh, that I suspect his endorsement of McCain is either a negative or at best a neutral.

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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: oilman On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:37 pm

Congress removed regulation from energy trading in 2000 as a favor to the then all-powerfull Enron. We all know what happened next.
Basically, the speculative trading going on now would have been illegal in early 2000. The whole problem is that about 85% of all oil trading is paper barrels, people buying & selling oil they have no use for. 15% of the trades are actually wet barrels that are sold and purchased by real oil companies and producers.
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:37 pm

Do you guys remember Saddam Hussein's repeated violation of 17 UN security council resolutions? How about a Bin Laden-Hussein link.

http://www.wnd.com/2004/06/25153/
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:40 pm

LsFarm wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:
spc wrote:What is the President's first responsibility?


In my opinion to be honest & honorable! (the rest will naturaly follow)



I hope to hell that you didn't like Clinton!! or Want Billary to be elected!! Lets see, Rose Law Firm, Monica, Filegate's 'lost files' , Foster's 'suicide', the list goes on and on... Hillary stealing the white house furnishings, and having to give them back... what a slime-ball family!!

Why do you think they call him 'Teflon Bill' ??? He and Hillary wallowed in more illegal *censored* than any five presidents, and none of it stuck...His name "Slick Willey" is not just for the saliva on his crank !! Which he bald-faced lied to the country about.

Greg L

Back on subject, the slanted media has done such a good smear job on Buxh, that I suspect his endorsement of McCain is either a negative or at best a neutral.

GL


No Greg , I am not a Hillary supporter but not for the same reasons you stated.
I was a Joe Biden supporter & he will hopefuly make a great Sec. of State in the next (Democratic) administration. :D
I have never liked Hillary as I feel that she is just a political "Gold Digger" & will say/do anything necessary to be President for her ego. (I liked the line some comedien said that no matter what she is saying in a campaigm speech, all the average American male hears is a bitchy wife whining "Take out the garbage!"...just to give you an idea oif my dislike for Hillary, I would even consider voting for McCain over her, if not for his stance on another 100 years in Iraq & his flip/flop now supporting Bush's tax cut for the super rich))
I like Obama as I feel he is the only candidate with the potential to bring this country together again & restore our standing in the world.
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:43 pm

spc wrote:Do you guys remember Saddam Hussein's repeated violation of 17 UN security council resolutions? How about a Bin Laden-Hussein link.

http://www.wnd.com/2004/06/25153/


The war's over man! Saddam & his sons are long dead!! Give it up
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Re: Does President Bush's Endorsment Help Or Hurt McCain?

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:09 pm

Devil5052 wrote:The war's over man! Saddam & his sons are long dead!! Give it up
Somebody forgot to tell Al-Qaeda.
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