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PostBy: coalstoves On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:52 pm

chrisplaner wrote:Hello,

My name is Chris and I live near Reading, PA. I purchased a home 5 years ago that is heated using an oil fired water boiler. Oil was 1.04 a gallon and I started to replace all the windows in the house (over 30 of them) since the house was built in the early 30's and had all the original windows. Then oil jumped to 1.89 but by replacing the windows I still spent about the same amount because I lowered my fuel usage by around 40 percent. Then oil jumped to over 2 dollars a gallon and I installed an electric hot water heater so I could turn off the boiler in April and leave it off until October. This year oil is over 3 dollars a gallon and I have no other options to lower my oil usage from a savings perspective except for turning the thermostat down. Last year I decided to build an addition on the side of my house (24 x 40) with a full basement. The basement walls are finished drywall insulated with R13 and the first floor will have R19 in the 6 inch walls and R38 in the ceiling. I just ordered a Leisure Line Pioneer top vent for my basement. I am planning to heat the addition and hope that some of the heat will also reduce the heating bill for the existing 1850 square feet structure. My total finished living space will be about 3500 square feet. I was looking at pellet stoves but came across this forum and decided that coal was the right thing for me!

Chris


Hi Chris welcome to the forum sounds like you have been doing some research and reading here .

When do you expect your new stove and do you think you will have it up and running for a little this season

Keep us posted if you will, it will be interesting to see how it affects your living space from a basement installation and your new stove should have the updated Coaltrol and I am curious if it is more plug and play than earlier generation units especially with regard to the distribution blowers .
Last edited by Richard S. on Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Changed title
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Re: New Member chrisplaner

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:33 pm

Too bad you already ordered a top vent. A stoker boiler would really have done the whole job quite nicely. Check out the "what boiler" thread. Maybe its not to late! Scott
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Re: New Member chrisplaner

PostBy: pvolcko On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:30 am

Coalstoves, we are still in the 07-08 season and are still shipping V2 thermostat software. The "updated Coaltrol" and any of our other new/updated coal stoker related products are not slated to ship until the 08-09 season. We will be making a clear announcement at that time or perhaps a bit before.

I appreciate your ardent interest in the Coal-trol Digital product and what you believe to be an incorrectly implemented fan control feature, but please refrain from further trading in this misinformation about our release schedule. Thank you.
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Re: New Member chrisplaner

PostBy: pvolcko On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:12 am

Chrisplaner, it is impossible to "unring" a bell, so I'll explain what we believe to be the primary cause of the issue Coalstoves mentioned. In some very rare cases there is a defect in one of the components involved, but usually it is a matter of explaining the way the automatic fan speed feature works and running through a couple tests to verify that the fan speed control is actually working as designed. Our controls will vary the speed of the convection fans to trail the adjustments to the feedrate. In some situations, particularly upon firing up the stove or when a setpoint change is made, there can be relatively rapid feedrate changes. In these cases, the changes to fan speed can lag behind the changes to the feedrate by up to 20-30 minutes, by design. Some people, unfamiliar with how our control works or of the reasons for the delay in the fan speed changes, will report that the fans appear to run at either higher or lower speeds than they are expecting.

If you should run into any problems both Leisure Line and Automation Correct are available through phone, email, or this forum to help you troubleshoot the issue and replace or repair any defective components. We recommend that you call first since it is far easier and quicker to troubleshoot over the phone.

BTW, sorry for the multi-reply. Bad form. :oops:
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Re: New Member chrisplaner

PostBy: coalstoves On: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:46 am

pvolcko wrote:Coalstoves, we are still in the 07-08 season and are still shipping V2 thermostat software. The "updated Coaltrol" and any of our other new/updated coal stoker related products are not slated to ship until the 08-09 season. We will be making a clear announcement at that time or perhaps a bit before.

I appreciate your ardent interest in the Coal-trol Digital product and what you believe to be an incorrectly implemented fan control feature, but please refrain from further trading in this misinformation about our release schedule. Thank you.



pvolcko wrote:Chrisplaner, I'll explain what we believe to be the primary cause of the issue mentioned. In some very rare cases there is a defect in one of the components involved, but usually it is a matter of explaining the way the automatic fan speed feature works and running through a couple tests to verify that the fan speed control is actually working as designed. Our controls will vary the speed of the convection fans to trail the adjustments to the feedrate. In some situations, particularly upon firing up the stove or when a setpoint change is made, there can be relatively rapid feedrate changes. In these cases, the changes to fan speed can lag behind the changes to the feedrate by up to 20-30 minutes, by design. Some people, unfamiliar with how our control works or of the reasons for the delay in the fan speed changes, will report that the fans appear to run at either higher or lower speeds than they are expecting.


Thank You
So far that is the best explanation of the distribution blower glitch I have seen here in the pages of the forum, and also for clearing up the version timeline, I think a few other folks besides myself thought you released updated units already, I will continue to follow all your news regarding the control and its updates along with new features you may have planned .

I have from time to time brought the control up in conversations with potential stove buyers especially potential pellet converts there always seems to be some rousing interest when I describe the features as advertised, it will be great when you get it to the point that it is almost purely plug and play with as little or even no setup and tech support required .

If I may I do have a question that rambles thru my head whenever I'm reading user posted experiences with Coaltrol

Approximately how many controls are out in the field in service ?
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Re: New Member chrisplaner

PostBy: pvolcko On: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:14 pm

I'm sorry, but with due respect to you and anyone else interested in this number, I won't answer that on a public forum. In the past and in private we've told a few trusted people, but it is proprietary information which we keep fairly close to the vest. Suffice it to say that there are a good many units in use today and sales are strong and growing, for which we're very grateful to our customers. :D
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Will coalstoves ever STFU???

PostBy: Matthaus On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:26 am

coalstoves wrote:....it will be great when you get it to the point that it is almost purely plug and play with as little or even no setup and tech support required


Coalstoves, how about you make comments about the Automation Correct and LL Products after you actually own them, I have grown weary (and a bit sick!) of your mis-information and opinions that appear to be based on your own agenda and what others have posted here.

It does appear that your original post was trying to be positive, but since you have no product experience or actual first hand knowledge... was it really helpful??? No so much! :)

The preceding has been a personal opinion and was not based on the opinions of the fine folks at either Liesure Line or Automation Correct, thank you for listening

:roll: :P toothy :taz:
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PostBy: coalstoves On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:55 am

If it makes ya feel any better I bought a ¼ Ton of Superior to taste, who knows maybe one day I'll try a Coaltrol

:angel:
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Re: New Member chrisplaner

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:35 am

This has no discussion value, Chris has probably been scared off by now..... please don't start new topics directed at particular members in the future, that is what the PM system is for. Locking this and changing title.
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