which coal boiler to get

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: 26Weeks On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:22 am

The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian
26Weeks
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman / Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: SF-250 Combo - KA6 Boiler

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:43 am

Insulated concrete forms are the way to go. Good fire rating and low infiltration. Here is a link to one company. http://www.polysteel.com/psform_3000.htm
Just Google insulated concrete forms for other companies.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLG&q=insulated+concrete+forms&revid=1070684609&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=revision&cd=1
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: pret On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:18 pm

I dabbled with large water storage in the basement when considering the wood gun from Alternate Heating Systems. You can find (in PA) a used dairy tank with faulty refrigeration - totally useless to the farmer - for a pretty good deal. I had an 850 gallon insulated stainless tank - about 10 years old for $500 lined up before I began reading this forum and made the WISE switch to coal. I don't see the benefit in energy storage using water if one heats with coal.

Of course, I jumped into this thread at page 6... so maybe I missed something?
pret
 


Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:09 pm

pret wrote:Of course, I jumped into this thread at page 6... so maybe I missed something?


If your heating with coal, you didn't miss anything. :)
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:28 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
pret wrote:Of course, I jumped into this thread at page 6... so maybe I missed something?


If your heating with coal, you didn't miss anything. :)

It's true, it's true!!!!!!!! 26 weeks. Did you leave enough room for the backup generator? You have to post pictures of this buildup! That fold down door sounds real sweet! Come on! :) Scott
Scottscoaled
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 350, 700. Van Wert 400 x 2, 800, 1200.
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: 26Weeks On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:26 pm

I would love to show you pics if I could only figure out how to do it. I thought that I had it the other day but you would have got our xmas disney pictures. Any ideas let me know? Brian :oops:
26Weeks
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman / Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: SF-250 Combo - KA6 Boiler

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:21 pm

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Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: gambler On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:17 am

Sting wrote:First -- sign up for a free account
{1} http://s35.photobucket.com/
{2} Save your picture to "My Pictures" in your computer scaled to
the size you prefer to post them
{3} Go into Photobucket and on the Image selection, select
browse, select the picture out of your "My Pictures" on
your computer.
{4} Enter a description if you wish in Photobucket
{5} Select Submit and the photo will appear below.
{6} Click on the URL of the picture to select it's contents
{7} Click copy
{8} Go into your "post a reply" on the forum and paste it in
Highlight it and select "Img" from the buttons straight to the
right of the "Message body" and preview or submit your
"Post a reply"



Or you could just use the upload attachment feature at the bottom of the reply page.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: Sting On: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:04 am

gambler wrote:Or you could just use the upload attachment feature at the bottom of the reply page.



Daaaaaaaa

I never noticed that
Sting
 
Other Heating: BurnHAM=NG-gas

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: 26Weeks On: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:13 pm

Thanks the pexs came today we have been busy . The total cost is a little above what I projected but we are moveing forward.It is the house we built in 73 I plan on staying so I think it will pay off. Any other boilers that I could look at in Dansville NY area please let me know? Thanks Brian
26Weeks
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman / Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: SF-250 Combo - KA6 Boiler

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:32 pm

Come on!!! Where are the pics of that foldown wall? :) Scott
Scottscoaled
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520x4, 350, 700. Van Wert 400 x 2, 800, 1200.
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: 26Weeks On: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:41 pm

The wall is weeks away. The pex is in the ground and in the house,the driveway cloth is down and we are gradeing stone. Brian
26Weeks
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman / Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: SF-250 Combo - KA6 Boiler

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: Bob On: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:05 pm

26Weeks wrote:The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian


Don't know what code you may be expected to meet with your installation but by the time you put an interior wall to separate the coal bin from the equipment you will have only 8 feet --not 8 1/2. Most codes require a minimum of 3 feet access all around and that would leave only 2' for the unit--presumably including the plumbing-- if 3 feet of clear access is required.
Bob
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Anthracite

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:44 pm

Bob wrote:
26Weeks wrote:The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian


Don't know what code you may be expected to meet with your installation but by the time you put an interior wall to separate the coal bin from the equipment you will have only 8 feet --not 8 1/2. Most codes require a minimum of 3 feet access all around and that would leave only 2' for the unit--presumably including the plumbing-- if 3 feet of clear access is required.


Code? What Code!

We do stuff ourself around here. :D
cArNaGe
 

Re: which coal boiler to get

PostBy: Bob On: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:54 pm

cArNaGe wrote:
Bob wrote:
26Weeks wrote:The building will be 10x12 2x6 walls fully insulated including high density foam in the floor. I'm thinking these units made for inside are not well insulated so the building should be. Six foot of the back wall will fold down so the coal can be dumped in with my tractor. 3 or more feet should be enough coal for a year. 3x10x7 divided by 40 =5.2 tons. That will leave 8 1/2 feet for the unit,plumbing and a stand for a compact refrigerator to ward off dehydration. Brian


Don't know what code you may be expected to meet with your installation but by the time you put an interior wall to separate the coal bin from the equipment you will have only 8 feet --not 8 1/2. Most codes require a minimum of 3 feet access all around and that would leave only 2' for the unit--presumably including the plumbing-- if 3 feet of clear access is required.


Code? What Code!

We do stuff ourself around here. :D


Do you have home owners insurance? The insurance agent will want the installation done to recognized standards in order to provide insurance.
Bob
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Anthracite