Glenwood No. 8 Wood Plates

 
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Post by BlueMountains » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 1:11 pm

First off this is my second thread so excuse me up front for the questions.

I just purchased a Glenwood No.8 and had a few questions regarding the refractory and wood/coal grates. My stove looks different than other Glenwood No.6 stoves I have seen on here in terms of the grate plates. I assume its for wood burning/shaking?

I will attatch photos of the grate and would love to hear any input from the group. I hope to have it installed this fall, the stove isnt put together yet in terms of legs and nickel sides but its all complete and ready to burn. I just need to get the exhaust elbow/coal shakers and maybe a better wood grate.

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Post by KingCoal » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 1:25 pm

i don't think those are the original and proper style grates for that stove.

i'm certain that stove was produced with 4 geared prismatic grates for coal and a perforated flat iron plate to place over them to burn wood.

the grates in there now are from earlier style stoves.

 
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Post by michaelanthony » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 1:39 pm

This thread will clarify KingCoal's observation.
Glenwood Base Heater No. 8 Just Delivered

 
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Post by BlueMountains » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 1:49 pm

Here is a picture of the ash pan removed and you can see there is no cover plate or rakes. Guess I need to start trying to hunt down a plate, raker handle, wood plate and rakers. Uggggg

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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 2:05 pm

Welcome,

Good find - the #8 are rare.

The Glenwood parts book I have lists the #6 and #8 as triangular grates only. Four triangular bars two middles longer than the two outer bars, all sitting in a cast iron frame that slides into the top of the ash drawer. Then there is a front cover to hold the frame in place. Here's some pix below of what your looking for - these are from the #8's smaller brother, the #6.

Try contacting Wilson, who is a member on here. He goes by the screen name "wilsons woodstoves". He's restored a quite a few Glenwood #6 and #8 and he may be able to help.

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Post by BlueMountains » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 2:26 pm

Thanks Sunny Boy thats exactly what I needed to see. I will try to contact him at some point unless he sees this post first in the next few days.

Do you have any suggestions for the cracked refractory? I think it cracked during shipping, its in the first picture if you look close.

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 2:40 pm

where did you purchase the stove from it looks freshly restored? The the grate system looks oddly the same as a glenwood 109, 111 base heater. You either have a Frankenstein mutt or an extremity rare base burner hybrid. Hopefully William will chime in to clarify this .


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 2:57 pm

BlueMountains wrote:Thanks Sunny Boy thats exactly what I needed to see. I will try to contact him at some point unless he sees this post first in the next few days.

Do you have any suggestions for the cracked refractory? I think it cracked during shipping, its in the first picture if you look close.
Robert,
I saw the crack in the picture. Looks like a shrinkage crack to me - maybe from firing the stove before the refractory dried well enough ????.

I wouldn't be too concerned. You can patch it with refractory cement if you prefer. The coal will hold it in place during use.

The six original firebricks in my range were all cracked in several places each. And the bricks sit straight up in the firebox, not leaning outward against the sloping sides of a firepot. No chunks ever fell out because of the coal pushing outward holding the brick pieces in place against the firebox walls - even during shaking and reloading.

If you don't mind my asking, where did you find such a rare stove ?

Paul

 
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Post by wilsons woodstoves » Wed. Apr. 22, 2015 9:57 pm

Your stove should look like the pics Paul posted, Someone found a round draw center grate that fit( not sure what is holding it up) the rails that hold the grate bed are still in there. You need four grates four gears , the grate bed that holds them , and the grate plate that holds it all in (as shown in pauls post) Should be able to find everything in good used cond. or looks like it may work fine like it is. cracks in refractory are no problem. looks like a nice restored #8,I see the gas rings are in there also. Wilson

 
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Post by BlueMountains » Thu. Apr. 23, 2015 7:04 pm

Here is another picture of the stove, guess I have the GAS RING that people talk about installing.

Edit: Im missing the front ring that makes all the magic happen. Sad face.

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Post by dlj » Thu. Apr. 23, 2015 11:00 pm

Canaan coal man wrote:where did you purchase the stove from it looks freshly restored? The the grate system looks oddly the same as a glenwood 109, 111 base heater. You either have a Frankenstein mutt or an extremity rare base burner hybrid. Hopefully William will chime in to clarify this .
He has a Frankenstein mutt... The #6 and #8 had the prismatic grates. In his picture of the bottom of the stove, you can see all the details of the original casting to carry the prismatic grates.

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Post by Pancho » Fri. Apr. 24, 2015 8:42 am

Sunny Boy wrote:Welcome,

Good find - the #8 are rare.

The Glenwood parts book I have lists the #6 and #8 as triangular grates only. Four triangular bars two middles longer than the two outer bars, all sitting in a cast iron frame that slides into the top of the ash drawer. Then there is a front cover to hold the frame in place. Here's some pix below of what your looking for - these are from the #8's smaller brother, the #6.

Try contacting Wilson, who is a member on here. He goes by the screen name "wilsons woodstoves". He's restored a quite a few Glenwood #6 and #8 and he may be able to help.

Wilson Mull
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508-763-8941
:P I know a couple guys that have a couple of em'.

Now THAT is innerestin'....I wonder why someone would put the effort into a restoration and not use the proper grates/carriage?.
It's also hard to tell from the pics but it looks like you may need a spark grille in the back (just above the gas ring).

That said, looks like it would be functional as is but if Wilson has the parts available to convert to the triangular grates, they sure make for easy stove operation.

 
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Post by Pancho » Fri. Apr. 24, 2015 8:46 am

BlueMountains wrote:Here is another picture of the stove, guess I have the GAS RING that people talk about installing.

Edit: Im missing the front ring that makes all the magic happen. Sad face.
I don't wanna put words in Wilson's mouf but at one point I think he said he was getting #8 gas rings and the front part recast (along with other #8 bits).

He can getcha what you need if anyone can.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Apr. 24, 2015 8:55 am

The Glenwood triangular grates are the way to go for preventing clinker buildup that can cause problems with the proper clearing of ash !!!!

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Post by BlueMountains » Fri. Apr. 24, 2015 9:21 am

I might have a lead on the grate rack but the gas ring front along with the grates themselves will be difficult. That would be great if he was actually doing casts on them, I believe the contact for him was listed here on the thread. I will keep you guys posted.

Edit: I just talked with Wilson this morning and he has been very helpful in getting my stove back to origional. I'm looking foreward to getting the parts needed so she can hum in all her glory again.


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