Any Outboard Mechs Onboard?

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Apr. 28, 2015 10:29 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:HB,

Need cash as I think Im comming down with baseburneritis :doh:

Thanx again for the replies fellas ;)
Oh Nooooooo. I got it bad too :eek2: If its really bad PM me. Im talking to a gentleman that has 3 left. He is offering a super deal on a package but I really only want one....( Can afford one)

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Post by SMITTY » Tue. Apr. 28, 2015 11:51 pm

120 psi cold you'll only find on a well built FRESH engine. While 90 I'd consider a bit on the low side for a single, with a multi-cylinder engine there are plenty of others there to carry the load.

Low compression will mean hard starting, and lack of low end power. Once the thing spools up it will run fairly strong though.

As others have said, once that thing runs, the rings could free up and that number will rise. 90 cold isn't bad at all - hot, that's a different story ... but this was measured cold.

Ethanol free gas will still be good at 3 years. I had 7 year old gas in my El Camino, and 10 year old gas in my pressure washer - both ethanol free, and both fired right up! Boy do I miss those days. Now if you don't drain any carburetor bone dry, your in for some work come spring time - even after just 5 months! :x

Thanks EPA you pricks!! :mad2:

 
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Post by waldo lemieux » Wed. Apr. 29, 2015 8:02 am

Smitty,

I think Ima try putting a bar oil in there , Im thinkin that and a diesel battery outa the excavator will bump up the psi... :woot:

 
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Post by nealkas » Wed. Apr. 29, 2015 12:47 pm

Biggest problem with most boat motors is they simply don't get used enough.
Just like most other pieces of gear.
Ages worst not being used.

 
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Post by Doby » Wed. Apr. 29, 2015 9:22 pm

SWPaDon wrote:A lot more work and money than a coal stove.

My boat was free. By the time I fixed the hole in the hull from being wrecked, replaced the steering cables and throttle cables that were hacksawed off, purchased a motor because the original was stolen, purchased a trailer and replaced tires and wheel bearings, replaced all wiring, lights and horn, purchased life preservers, fire extinguisher, then the license and insurance for the trailer and boat, it got very expensive for that 'free' boat.

1st trip out, my FIL decided to get too close to a sandbar, and the prop hit, snapping the sheer pin. He said where's your spare's. I said...........HUH.

Luckily we found a six penny nail still laying there from when the floor was replaced with 3/4 plywood, and cutters to cut it down to size.

Then the next time out, my motor quit in the middle of the lake, raised the outboard to work on it, and the latch didn't secure properly.......everyone but me thought it was funny that I took a dive..........had to be towed in then fight to get it back on the trailer with no power.

Enough for me............I don't miss owning my own boat at all, and never will.

But as Waldo says, I'll ride someone else's anytime.

I love boating, as long as it ain't mine.
But the shear pin deal was user error hell I could hit a rock in the river I run but I don't I know the water that would be like getting a big old rock stuck in a grate and raking her down,,,,,,,,,,, its going to cost you something.

Good equipment and experience is expensive but trouble free and I now have that. I have had very old boats that cost little but they always saw good mechanics and I never broke where I could not get in.

I was in the coast guard auxiliary for 5 years, did patrols and 90% of problems we saw was operator error or poor maintenance and most of these poor fellows just lacked experience. Don't give it a bad rap its like anything else you learn

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Apr. 29, 2015 9:29 pm

Doby wrote:
SWPaDon wrote:A lot more work and money than a coal stove.

My boat was free. By the time I fixed the hole in the hull from being wrecked, replaced the steering cables and throttle cables that were hacksawed off, purchased a motor because the original was stolen, purchased a trailer and replaced tires and wheel bearings, replaced all wiring, lights and horn, purchased life preservers, fire extinguisher, then the license and insurance for the trailer and boat, it got very expensive for that 'free' boat.

1st trip out, my FIL decided to get too close to a sandbar, and the prop hit, snapping the sheer pin. He said where's your spare's. I said...........HUH.

Luckily we found a six penny nail still laying there from when the floor was replaced with 3/4 plywood, and cutters to cut it down to size.

Then the next time out, my motor quit in the middle of the lake, raised the outboard to work on it, and the latch didn't secure properly.......everyone but me thought it was funny that I took a dive..........had to be towed in then fight to get it back on the trailer with no power.

Enough for me............I don't miss owning my own boat at all, and never will.

But as Waldo says, I'll ride someone else's anytime.

I love boating, as long as it ain't mine.
But the shear pin deal was user error hell I could hit a rock in the river I run but I don't I know the water that would be like getting a big old rock stuck in a grate and raking her down,,,,,,,,,,, its going to cost you something.

Good equipment and experience is expensive but trouble free and I now have that. I have had very old boats that cost little but they always saw good mechanics and I never broke where I could not get in.

I was in the coast guard auxiliary for 5 years, did patrols and 90% of problems we saw was operator error or poor maintenance and most of these poor fellows just lacked experience. Don't give it a bad rap its like anything else you learn
It's a bad rap for me, I'll never own another boat.

You are more than welcome to buy as many as you want.

 
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Post by waldo lemieux » Wed. Apr. 29, 2015 11:23 pm

:whistle: out here in the open ..... Motor boatin :D


 
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Post by Flyer5 » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 9:46 am

waldo lemieux wrote::whistle: out here in the open ..... Motor boatin :D
Wheres the like button? :D

 
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Post by Richard S. » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 10:12 am

B.O.A.T. = Bust Out Another Thousand

 
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Post by Flyer5 » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 10:28 am

I will stick with the jetskis. Very few problems so far. Boats were always a headache. Boat=Big hole in the water where you throw money. I do enjoy the motor boating though. :D

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 10:45 am

Yup, another common definition of a Boat. A hole in the water into which one pours money. :D

Seriously though. I deal with two stoke motors (opps! edit that to four stroke) that many have sat for decades in barns/garages.

And for those in more use, even with "normal use", they sit over the winter like boat engines.

I first learned about using Marvel Mystery Oil from mechanics I worked with in boat yards. It's the only thing that would keep valves from sticking in the old L-head Chrysler marine engines, found in so many cabin cruisers and boat yard slipway winch motors. And, it was not uncommon to find many marine inboard engines with a Marvel Mystery inverse oiler plumbed into the intake manifold.

I've used it in my antique auto restoration business for over 30 years. And, you'll see it used by other shops in a lot engines and fuel systems of very expensive antique auto engines.

It does wonders for keeping fuel systems free of rust and sludge. It also keeps fuel pump check valves from sticking when the alcohol gas dries out after a month or two.

And Marvel Mystery Oil has an affinity for carbon, so it's excellent at cleaning sticky carbon buildup off piston rings and valve stems when a motor is unused for months, and equally good at keeping them clean, when regularly added to the gasoline.

I buy it by the gallon for the shop for use in used and freshly rebuilt engines, and engines that are going into storage. Plus, every customer gets a quart can with a note for when and where to use it.

Also good for lubing and keeping air driven shop tools from gumming up.

Paul
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Post by Flyer5 » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 11:59 am

Sunny Boy wrote:Yup, another common definition of a Boat. A hole in the water into which one pours money. :D

Seriously though. I deal with two stoke motors that many have sat for decades in barns/garages.

And for those in more use, even with "normal use", they sit over the winter like boat engines.

I first learned about using Marvel Mystery Oil from mechanics I worked with in boat yards. It's the only thing that would keep valves from sticking in the old L-head Chrysler marine engines, found in so many cabin cruisers and boat yard slipway winch motors. And, it was not uncommon to find many marine inboard engines with a Marvel Mystery inverse oiler plumbed into the intake manifold.

I've used it in my antique auto restoration business for over 30 years. And, you'll see it used by other shops in a lot engines and fuel systems of very expensive antique auto engines.

It does wonders for keeping fuel systems free of rust and sludge. It also keeps fuel pump check valves from sticking when the alcohol gas dries out after a month or two.

And Marvel Mystery Oil has an affinity for carbon, so it's excellent at cleaning sticky carbon buildup off piston rings and valve stems when a motor is unused for months, and equally good at keeping them clean, when regularly added to the gasoline.

I buy it by the gallon for the shop for use in used and freshly rebuilt engines, and engines that are going into storage. Plus, every customer gets a quart can with a note for when and where to use it.

Also good for lubing and keeping air driven shop tools from gumming up.

Paul
Good stuff. When I was flying 2stroke ultralights I always added a little to the tank. Never had a Rotax let me down in over 500hrs.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 1:02 pm

Cheap coffee ! :oops: I should have said four stroke engines. My customers get upset missing strokes in their motors instead of just their golf games. :D

Anyway, most of the motors I rebuild are aircraft style automotive engines. They are aircooled, with overhead valves sealed inside rocker boxes - out of the engine's cooling fan air stream. And they are only oiled by natural oil migration from felt pads. So, no pumped oil to help carry heat away.

Even in everyday use, with the valve stems, guides, and rocker arms sealed inside those rocker boxes, with a hot cylinder head right underneath and covered by a 1/2 inch thick felt oil pad inside the cage cover, the valve stems get hot and can carbon up quickly. Then they start to stick open.

We use a mix of 50/50 motor oil and Marvel Mystery Oil on the valve pads because it's the only lube that is very good at keeping the valve gear clean under such tough conditions.

Paul

 
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Post by waldo lemieux » Thu. Apr. 30, 2015 1:23 pm

^^^^ all of the above and when Im runnin short of Milk of Magnesia :wine: and away we go!!!!!

 
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Post by SMITTY » Fri. May. 01, 2015 1:45 pm

Dad just dropped $1,800 on a new set of axles for his boat trailer. :shock:

Told him I could've done that for 1/3 that probably .. he said yeah, but your busy .... :lol: Parents! :D


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