coal size for keystoker

coal size for keystoker

PostBy: bowman On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:33 am

The manufacturer recommends rice or buckwheat. What works best for you?
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PostBy: Matthaus On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:11 am

I burn Buckwheat or buck rice mix in the slant grate 90,000 btu keystokers I have been burning (a top vent stove and an A90 furnace). I have heard that the direct vent units don't like buck, so hopefully you will hear from Eurpoachris on that one (or do a search on his posts). I am picking up a direct vent Keystoker 90,0000 slant grate and plan to find out exactly what the issues are with buck.

I like the buck because it has less fines and doesn't form clinkers, also seems to burn hotter when you need the extra heat. Is just a personal preference though, lots of folks burn only rice and have good results. :)
Matthaus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110 Dual Fuel, natural gas
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Lil' Heater (rental house)
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite

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PostBy: gaw On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:27 am

I burned a ton or two of rice with no problems. I have been burning all buckwheat since then. Buckwheat can be easier to get at times because there is more demand for rice. That is my primary reason for burning buckwheat.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice from Schuylkill County

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PostBy: WNY On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:31 am

I have burnt Both in my Keystoker 90K DV, but usually a mix 30 Buck/70Rice, if I have some buck, mine is a a direct vent with no problems. 3rd year running. I usually get 5-10 bags of buck to have on hand for the really cold nights and throw a bag in and mix it up with what's in the hopper.

I have burnt 100% Buck last year when really cold to avoid the clinkers that can form sometimes. I had one big clinker get stuck between the grate and the door (with rice) and everything (unburnt) coal & ash went all over the sides into the ash pan and bottom of the stove, had to clean it all out....Good luck.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

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PostBy: ken On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:29 pm

i find with real small , all the same size rice , i get less heat. i like it and the stove does to , when there are some bigger pcs in the bag. i will be ordering 4 ton in the summer. i want to get 2 tons of each , mixed together. i think with the bigger chunks more air gets through and makes a hotter fire.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker - Rice Coal
Stove/Furnace Model: 75K - Bay Window - Direct Vent

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PostBy: europachris On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:03 pm

Matthaus wrote:I burn Buckwheat or buck rice mix in the slant grate 90,000 btu keystokers I have been burning (a top vent stove and an A90 furnace). I have heard that the direct vent units don't like buck, so hopefully you will hear from Eurpoachris on that one (or do a search on his posts). I am picking up a direct vent Keystoker 90,0000 slant grate and plan to find out exactly what the issues are with buck.

I like the buck because it has less fines and doesn't form clinkers, also seems to burn hotter when you need the extra heat. Is just a personal preference though, lots of folks burn only rice and have good results. :)


OK, here's the deal with buck - on a DV stove, you balance the overfire draft between the combustion air setting and the DV adjustment (damper and/or motor speed). I tried running buck and most likely didn't have my overfire draft adjusted low enough (-.02 MAX!!!!), so the stove starts sucking too much air through the hopper because buck doesn't pack together like rice and block the airflow through the stoker throat. The fire then follows the air right up the grate and into the hopper. Then the nylon parts of the Keystoker stoker mechanism do a great imitation of the China Syndrome and you're done. You are then relegated to scraping/chiseling melted nylon out of the stoker and buying some new parts. Not the end of the world, but a real panic when you smell melting stove in the middle of the night and find your hopper glowing!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'd be tempted to try it again and make sure the draft was somewhere just above zero. The stove only needs enough draft to maintain negative pressure in the firebox and no more. That would probably allow buck to be run in a DV Keystoker. That said, I really liked the buckwheat - very few fines, and excellent burn with few unburnt particles. It did crunch a bit more in the stoker due to the larger size, but otherwise it fed well.
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Stove/Furnace Make: EFM 350/Iron Fireman
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