The "Stove & Heat Ministry "Railroad

I think this might be a thread we can use to help Rev. Larry secure a few reasonably priced, serviceable coal stoves for his "Stove And Heat Ministry"

In the past few months, a few really great low priced stoves have been posted, but the logistics involved in getting them to Central Pa. has been a hurdle.

If any of our members know of a good serviceable, stove please feel free to post it here.

Anyone interested in helping in any way at all, post your thoughts.

Quite a few members have offered to help out either with a donations or helping to set up a relay, to get these stoves down to Larry.

The critical part , in my opinion, is making the initial inspection, purchase and pickup. If a member is close by and willing to pick it up and store it for a short period of time, I'm sure we can make it work.

This would give other interested members some time to make arrangements and get the stove a little closer. What is the difference if it takes a month or two ? It's a great way for members to meet.

Please take a minute and share your thoughts.

Paulie

I'll post the first stove. This is near Altoona, Pa. Quaker stove 95.00: **Broken Link(S) Removed**

Saby???? 75.00 near State College, Pa. : **Broken Link(S) Removed**

SWPaDon wrote:Saby???? 75.00 near State College, Pa. : **Broken Link(S) Removed**

NOT Saby~~~~~~~~~ SAEY is correct

I am some what following what people here are trying to do with the "stove ministry", bottom line is keep the stoves going for people that need them. Has any one thought of using "Fastenal" to ship stoves. It is easier than FedEx Freight or the likes because you do not have to deal with the 42" platform height at the unload terminal. I believe Fastenal has a pallet jack and will unload off of any reasonable height , and then they load onto the TT. At a much more relaxed pace than a shipping terminal can get at times. How ever Fed Ex Freight has told me that If I can get the pallet off my pick up,, and onto there load area at that 42" height , go for it. Just saying that Fastenal may be easier, as they will unload you or at least help a bit, within reasonable procedure. So, if you can put any stove on a pallet and ratchet strap it solid, you are good to go, common courier. Fastenal might be better at the destination load point as well. Phone calls will give you your answers. good luck alpineboard
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alpineboard wrote:I am some what following what people here are trying to do with the "stove ministry", bottom line is keep the stoves going for people that need them. Has any one thought of using "Fastenal" to ship stoves. It is easier than FedEx Freight or the likes because you do not have to deal with the 42" platform height at the unload terminal. I believe Fastenal has a pallet jack and will unload off of any reasonable height , and then they load onto the TT. At a much more relaxed pace than a shipping terminal can get at times. How ever Fed Ex Freight has told me that If I can get the pallet off my pick up,, and onto there load area at that 42" height , go for it. Just saying that Fastenal may be easier, as they will unload you or at least help a bit, within reasonable procedure. So, if you can put any stove on a pallet and ratchet strap it solid, you are good to go, common courier. Fastenal might be better at the destination load point as well. Phone calls will give you your answers. good luck alpineboard
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Fastenal is great for shipping! I just received my boiler from western mass. via Fastenal delivered to Northern Maine at a very reasonable price!

John

What was the cost from Taxachusetts to near the Border with Canada?

ONEDOLLAR wrote:John

What was the cost from Taxachusetts to near the Border with Canada?

$150 dollars for 1000 pounds worth of boiler....I'd say that's a fair price!

john

Thanks!

The distance to your place in Maine is just about the same as it is from Boston to Pottsville, PA. So one could realistically assume that a typical coal stove shipped from around these parts down to PA would run around $100. Could be a little more. Could be a little less. While that is a very very good price it still is a TON of money for a small outreach program.

There Is a Fastenal near me in Saratoga, N.Y. It's only a third of the way from Boston to Ashland. Maybe a third of the price?

... a wonderful thread and a good time to hash out the details. Many thoughts are bouncing around my noggin. First something to think about...as many forum members are kind and giving to donate to the "Heat Ministry" born by a truly awesome person, Pauliewog touched on many good points. One being a good serviceable stove, and another one, to inspect and be able to secure the stove for a period of time. Imagine if the monetary donations were shreaded and Rev. Larry had to tape the checks back together...well as we know many stoves we see in the course of a year have scrap value only, let's not look at a stove and think "yuck, not for me but what about..." I think you know where this is going. There is an old saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and PLEASE no one get all huffy, this is a great idea from another awesome member so let's do it right.

Personally I feel as a group we upgrade and change styles i. e. "hand fed to girly stove", and "too small need more btu's" many times and I think a stove we use is a stove we know and inspect it daily if not more! I would feel terrible if I acquired a stove with the intention of sending it to Rev. Larry and come to find it is scrap and now a burden to our friend. There are parts of a stove that are difficult to get to unless stripped down ...or fired up and tested. There are literally thousands of sets of eyes on the forum, some better than others, there are folks that cut their first teeth on coal, I learned how to spell Anthracite 4 years ago

A tax deductible donation can be on paper or on 4 legs so lets consider stoves we know first, dust off the stove that got you hooked on coal, keep in mind these stoves we send will be scrutinized by a wise set of eyes but we are merely humans trying to do the big guys work.

Thanks for the thread Pauliewog those are my thoughts, keep the faith!

I believe that CC prices are based on the pallet size area. length times width, they do not care if you ship a 10 pound item or a 200 pound item. It is the same price, But they do have a weight max point that they will charge if you go over it, and another max point that they will say no too heavy. But the bottom line in money saving is, get to know what the length/width pallet prices are , and where the bump up $ points are for the next size bigger pallet, find out what stoves fit on what size pallets, and go from there. Maybe the small pallet will work for most stoves and will save you money. Oh, and there is a height issue also, if under it, no more money, if over, well add a bit more money. And also, if you have an extra special stove, strap it, shrink wrap possible, then put sides and a top on the pallet., but then the straps are not visible, because a lot of drivers will see a loose strap and tighten it. So if you box it up, be real good with your placement and straps. Also, drill holes or make angle plates to fix/bolt/lag screw the feet of the stove to the pallet. That is what many stove companies do , Woodstock soapstone, ect., , Oh, then if you want additional insurance that too, any way, the CC's will answer your questions. good luck, R

This is a real good idea. For many reasons. There should be some donations from the 8-9000 members. When that is set up. Larry's end will be easier. Still, having to deal with a hunk of crap stove doesn't make his time effective. So, having members find , supply, repair stoves would make his time better spent on installing and finding the home for the stoves. If we all just find a way to each do a part, this could really work. Me, my special talent lies in driving my old Chevy pickup all over the Northeast. If we can coordinate five or six meetings on the interstate 90 and rt 84, it can happen. I know someone to pass them off to on the other end. I do go to Pa. quite a bit and the one thing that is usually true is the truck is usually EMPTY. It's easy to talk the talk. Let's walk the walk.

Thanks to everyone for your responses and ideas.
I look at this as a team effort and consider our members as an extended family. I found out long ago just how small the world is and how short our lives are. Most, if not all of us have at one time or another fallen on hard times, and didn't have a clue how they would make it thru the next week

The thoughts of a family in this country, freezing to death because they can't afford oil, in this day and age, breaks my heart

Some of corporate America still has a heart, and may be willing to help out. Contacting someone up the ladder in Fastenal may be an option.

Five years ago my wife and I helped start up a charity in memory of a dear friend. To date that little charity has helped over 30,000 families and is funded by private and corporate donations.
It doesn't hurt to ask. They may very well agree to transport one or two stoves a year.

Paulie

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Pauliewog wrote:Thanks to everyone for your responses and ideas.
I look at this as a team effort and consider our members as an extended family. I found out long ago just how small the world is and how short our lives are. Most, if not all of us have at one time or another fallen on hard times, and didn't have a clue how they would make it thru the next week

The thoughts of a family in this country, freezing to death because they can't afford oil, in this day and age, breaks my heart

Some of corporate America still has a heart, and may be willing to help out. Contacting someone up the ladder in Fastenal may be an option.

Five years ago my wife and I helped start up a charity in memory of a dear friend. To date that little charity has helped over 30,000 families and is funded by private and corporate donations.
It doesn't hurt to ask. They may very well agree to transport one or two stoves a year.

Paulie

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Sir...I really appreciate your compassionate outlook! It's really satisfying to also see that same compassion shared by so many on this forum. ...thanks to all and I will do my part as I can to support this cause!