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coalstoves
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by coalstoves » Sun. Mar. 09, 2008 8:47 pm
traderfjp wrote: I have to figure out where to store in on the property without having the town make me remove it.
1 Put a plastic religious statue on it and call it a monument for daily devotions .
2 Tell council to kiss yer ass or supplement the heating bill .
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traderfjp
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by traderfjp » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 1:11 am
coalstoves wrote:traderfjp wrote: I have to figure out where to store in on the property without having the town make me remove it.
① Put a plastic religious statue on it and call it a monument for daily devotions .
② Tell council to kiss yer ass or supplement the heating bill .
The town can find you each day until you comply with their wishes. I'm sure they have some law for storing large supplies of flammable materials. I really want to get a truck load though. Hmmmmm. SUre would hate to have to get rid of 22 tons of coal. If my supplier didn't buy it from me I would have to dump it in a landfill for 90 a ton. Or worse if the town has other plans.
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Richard S.
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by Richard S. » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 2:10 am
traderfjp wrote:The town can find you each day until you comply with their wishes. I'm sure they have some law for storing large supplies of flammable materials.
I don't think it could be classified as a flammable materials or at least in the "highly flammable " category. You could always challenge them to light it.
Do they have any laws against storing firewood? That would certainly pose much more of fire hazard than coal would.
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traderfjp
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by traderfjp » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 7:13 am
Good point Richard. I'll call this week and find out for sure.
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Ed.A
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by Ed.A » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 8:23 am
Amazing how town ordinances could be so instrusive. I'd challange them to a hazard duel, give the chairman a lighter and he gets go to your pile of "Flammable" hazards and you get to take a lighter and walk into his home, let see which one will need the Fire Dept. first!!
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WNY
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by WNY » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 8:43 am
Our village, you need a permit to do just about anyting in and around your house. I had to get a $10 permit to even put up a 10'x10' storage shed for the mowers and stuff with proper setbacks from the property lines, etc...of course they never did come by and check it.
Maybe build a bin that looks like a shed and hinge the roof for loading?
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LsFarm
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by LsFarm » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 8:56 am
If they allow the storage of firewood, you could also point out that firewood is a home for termites, carpenter ants, and other not very desireable insects and pests... where the coal is pretty much just a pile of coal..shiny black rocks
But you will want it under a roof or at least a tarp, so a shed-like enclosure with a roof is a good idea. My 'tent' over my 28ton coal bin enclosure is marginal at best.. one of the items on this summer's 'list' is a better roof over the coal bin.
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CapeCoaler
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by CapeCoaler » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 9:04 am
Revenue enhancement. It is not so much about regulating what you do or safety as it is for generating cash for the town without raising “taxes”.
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by Adamiscold » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 9:14 am
If you're allowed to store a a few ton of firewood in our yard without any issues then the issue is the towns problem and not your's. I would hire a lawyer before I would pay 90 a ton to get rid of perfectly good coal.
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by Yanche » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 9:26 am
Your are taking the wrong approach. Flatten the coal pile, put a tarp on it, cover with potting soil. Plant with flowers. It's now a landscaping berm. Each season mine some coal! Problem solved! What hazard!
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by Dallas » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 9:44 am
Get yourself an old pick up truck. Just leave in the truck box.
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by Linc » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 7:41 pm
Actually I think a shed is a good idea for coal storage. I've been thinking about one of them 10'x20' tarp carport/garages for around $200. Would have to make a wood floor and side walls so the coal doesn't bust out the sides. But it probably would work.
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by lee32768 » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 9:13 pm
Easter is coming - you could paint it different pastel colors and pretend it's an egg hunt!
Ahh, the job of bureaucracy is to make more bureaucracy.
As for storage sheds, I'm in the middle of building one out of 1" Emt and used steel roofing. It's going to be 8x10 - 6' to the square(the biggest I can build without a permit), and through proper scrounging I'm going to pull it off for around $100. I have the drawing with angles and lengths in pdf if anyone wants them. It's for my wife's dogs but I've already calculated it to hold 10ton+ of coal!
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by traderfjp » Tue. Mar. 11, 2008 10:46 pm
If I get my truck load it will be bagged coal. I like the convenience and there is no way that a trailer could dump 22 tons in my driveway. 22 tons of bagged coal works out to around 18 pallets about 4 - 5 feet high. The coal is bagged in plastic bags and is shrink wrapped. I would have to have a forklift to empty the truck. The neighbors would definitely see what was happening since I probably would have to have the trailer park across the street and then unload it into my yard. I have a fenced in pool that is 40' long so I was thinking of storing the coal on the side of the pool. I would rather get 10 tons but then I would have to get it myself. I’m not sure I could even get a truck to haul that much.
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by Adamiscold » Wed. Mar. 12, 2008 7:45 am
traderfjp wrote: I would rather get 10 tons but then I would have to get it myself. I’m not sure I could even get a truck to haul that much.
Hey Trader, if you're only looking for 10 ton then a guy posted this link
http://www.uship.com. If you look around you might find a trucking company coming up your way with only half a load and they would most likely give you a discounted price since they are coming that way any ways.