Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:30 am

Scottscoaled wrote:You know I'm kidding? That is some nice work. How did you do it?


Don't get your panties in a knot .....I don't take you serious even when you are :D

The raised plastic letters and background paper cost about $5 .... I already had some bondo, putty, primer, and a piece of scrap tin. The biggest expense was the 18 cans of beer.
:cheers:

Paulie
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

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Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:14 pm

Brazed the footrest back together today, and gave it a few layers of filler to beef it up, followed by a couple coats of high build primer.

Almost ready to ship out for recasting. :D
Now I can finally dismantle the rest of the stove and clean it up.

Paulie
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Pauliewog
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:24 pm

Finally sold the shop, had the closing this week, and said a sad goodbye to the grueling seven 12 hour a day weeks. :taz: :out:

Going to help out the new owner for a few months and then downsize to a small shop closer to home where I can work on my own toys, and a few special projects part time for one of my customers.

I did find a little spare time to get started taking apart the rest of the stove, so I can start glass blasting it this weekend.

Paulie
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Pauliewog
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:18 am

Did a little bead blasting at the house today, a little slower here with the smaller compressor than it was up the shop. :(

Paulie
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Pauliewog
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:20 am

Congratulations on your retirement!!!! I guess I never heard what kind of business you had. Keep the pics coming , I live a very vicarious existence...
waldo lemieux
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:39 am

waldo lemieux wrote:Congratulations on your retirement!!!! I guess I never heard what kind of business you had. Keep the pics coming , I live a very vicarious existence...


Thanks, my friend !! Wow .... Thats a tough one, my profile touches on some of it. We were primary a specialized rigging company, that pretty much did it all, from design to completion :D In the shop we built and modified equipment for the coal, and finishing industry. We changed focus thru the years starting with Electrical, adding excavation and site preperation, steel erection, mechanical, welding, refractory, machinery moving, and consulting.

My wife sums it up the best........ I never knew what I wanted to be when I grew up. :rofl:

I still plan to help out two clients part time, one is a wind turbine manufacturer, and the other a local steel fabrication and coating shop. The rest of my time I hope to spend refurbishing these old coal stoves.

Ended up helping my son in law this weekend installing a laminate floor in his dining and living room. I did manage to get a few more parts done this evening.

Should be able to finish them up tomorrow and start painting, before they rust back up with this high humidity.

Paulie
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Pauliewog
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:42 am

So you made your living solving problems.... That would keep things interesting. Every time I see one of these old stoves cleaned up, I marvel at how they are largely the same as the day they were made. Some of them a hundred or more years ago. How many things made today will be able to remain serviceable over that kinda time? Those old parts look like they just came from the foundry. Cool :)
waldo lemieux
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:01 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:So you made your living solving problems.... That would keep things interesting. Every time I see one of these old stoves cleaned up, I marvel at how they are largely the same as the day they were made. Some of them a hundred or more years ago. How many things made today will be able to remain serviceable over that kinda time? Those old parts look like they just came from the foundry. Cool :)


That pretty much sums it up....... Interesting, it was, especially dealing with language barriers when you only speak English :D

I often wondered how many man hours were involved from start to finish, with the basic tools and equipment available at the time.

This base burner sold for $32 when it was first produced. The claims in some of the stove catalogues were right when they stated....... Built to last for generations to come !

I finished up blasting the remainder of the parts this week and gave them 3 coats of high temp paint today, followed by a coat of stove polish on the exterior parts.

Paulie
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

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Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:34 pm

Few more pics. I put an additional coat of high temp copper paint on some of the scroll work. This stove is going in the Man Cave and I may want a bit of copper accent to show thru the stove polish to blend in with the Monarch fireplace insert.

Paulie
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Pauliewog
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:10 am

That will be a very nice stove, keep on the good job, be happy with your new **part time** job :) :D , take it easy my friend.
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:00 pm

nortcan wrote:That will be a very nice stove, keep on the good job, be happy with your new **part time** job :) :D , take it easy my friend.


Thanks Pierre ! I think the next project while Im waiting for the the casting work and nickel plating to come back will be the Merry Bride.
I am still searching for the footrests & wings,, but in the meantime I may as well finish the rest of it.

The wife and I are headed on a road trip up to Maine this afternoon to pick up the two Glenwood #6's in the morning that Jerry is selling.

Back home on Tuesday for the day. Then it's off to Atlanta on Wednesday, the Hershey RV show Thursday & Friday, over to the Meet & Greet this weekend. Just as busy as when I was working. :D

I really like the smooth base flue in this stove, it is almost identical to the one on the Bride.

Paulie
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:10 am

Looking good, Paulie. It's really coming along nicely !!!!

Since you mention the smooth flues, I can't help but wonder. Looking at it from a heat transfer ability point of view, I wonder which is better. The boxy shaped back pipe and base flues that cause turbulence, or the smooth and constant diameter flue directional changes ?

It's assumed that boxy shaped flues cause turbulence that causes the hotter flue gases to move out of the middle of the stream and drag to slow down the flow so that it has longer and hotter contact with the flue walls. As opposed to flues with smooth flow ability that it seems would not promote turbulence, drag and as much heat transfer ?

My years of tinkering with engine air/fuel induction systems tells me your smooth flue is better at extraction than transfer. It would be interesting to test that theory, if it were possible to compare both smooth and boxy flue design flue gas temps before and after the flues.

Enjoy the trips and don't let the retirement get to where you need to go back to work to get a break. :D

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:51 am

Sunny Boy wrote:Enjoy the trips and don't let the retirement get to where you need to go back to work to get a break
:up:
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:38 pm

Hi Paul, we still be waiting for the next batch of photos showing your art. That will bring some new actions on the forum !
Thanks
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:21 pm

NEPA

Sunny Boy wrote:Looking good, Paulie. It's really coming along nicely !!!!

Thanks Paul !

Since you mention the smooth flues, I can't help but wonder. Looking at it from a heat transfer ability point of view, I wonder which is better. The boxy shaped back pipe and base flues that cause turbulence, or the smooth and constant diameter flue directional changes ?

It seems like they used a combination of both boxy on the rear and smooth on the bottom floor panel. I wonder if it was intentional?

It's assumed that boxy shaped flues cause turbulence that causes the hotter flue gases to move out of the middle of the stream and drag to slow down the flow so that it has longer and hotter contact with the flue walls. As opposed to flues with smooth flow ability that it seems would not promote turbulence, drag and as much heat transfer ?

The upper portion of base chamber is squared off, and the bottom is recessed, curved and smooth, rather than a flat divided plate. The recessed portion provides close to 90 square inches of additional surface area, or approximately 30% more than if it had a flat bottom. Is it possible this was done to facilitate the extraction and add additional heat transfer area?

My years of tinkering with engine air/fuel induction systems tells me your smooth flue is better at extraction than transfer. It would be interesting to test that theory, if it were possible to compare both smooth and boxy flue design flue gas temps before and after the flues.

My Merry Bride baseburner has a similar base chamber. I may experiment with the base chamber on that one and compare running it with the original smooth bottom, and also trying it with a modified box design. I have at least a half dozen other stoves to restore before it, so I doubt if that will happen in this upcoming year.

Enjoy the trips and don't let the retirement get to where you need to go back to work to get a break. :D

Wow ....... You hit the nail right on the head .........We just got back from a road trip to Ohio, and it seems like I have less time, and more projects now, than when I was working !

Paul
Pauliewog
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Pittston Stove
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Dickson Oak, Golden Oak, Happy Thought Oak, 1913 Herald Oak#16, (2)Comfort Stove
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite

Visit Hitzer Stoves