Sounds like you were inspired by the good pastor.stockingfull wrote:I love this stuff.
We invade Iraq and hang Saddam because he "gassed" some Kurds who'd tried to assassinate him and killed 5,000. Yet we don't invade Saudi Arabia after 19 of 22 9/11 terrorists came out of their anti-American culture.
And why exactly are Hiroshima and Nagasaki sacrosanct and immune from criticism? Sure, that "full-scale atomic testing" shortened the war and prevented tens of thousands of GI (and Japanese) casualties, but those would have been military losses. Instead, we chose to incinerate 140,000 civilians in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki. Oh, and let's not forget the German cultural center of Dresden, where between 24,000 and 40,000 civilians were fried in the tactically dubious February 1945 fire-bombing.
But nobody can question whether those things are consistent with our principles? Of course, the answer is that we can, just not if we're preaching to a candidate for Prez.
I don't feel like giving a lesson in history. Sorry.stockingfull wrote:How about trying an answer to the substance of it for a change?
coalkirk wrote:But nobody can question whether those things are consistent with our principles? Of course, the answer is that we can, just not if we're preaching to a candidate for Prez.
coalkirk wrote:More bullshift liberal revisionist history. Victory was far from inevitable. I'd bet you can rattle off the exact number of US servicemen killled in Iraq to the minute ( I picture you with a little chalk board tally next to your computer) but I'd also bet you have no idea of the number of US servicemen killed in just the pacific battles. We lost 12,500 on Okinawa alone, 6,000 at Guadalcanal, 5,000 in the Bataan death march. Causuality estimates were widely debated for the planned invasion of the Japan islands but the number agreed on by most accounts was 500,000 to 750,000 US killed alone.
Charlie Z wrote:I agree completely with your second paragraph. I think Obama represents to many, true or not, the "old, inherent American goodness".
spc wrote:I Its ironic that the man who said there wouldn’t be a black President because of white America is the one who may ultimately bring Obama down.