Barack Hussein Obama "A closer look"

Since he finds so much time to post I think maybe he just plays one on TV.

coalkirk wrote:1.) That's a matter that's pending. ...

2.) Again, do your own discovery. I don't know but some probably have returned money in some cases when outrageous comments were made and then contributions were scrutinized. It's irrelevent anyway, ...

Objection to both answers as non-responsive to the numbered questions. Move to strike the answers.

Motion sustained.

coaledsweat wrote:Instead of race and gender (as if we didn't know one was black and the other a women), I would think there would be some better issues to choose when electing a President. It all just seems like a lot of distraction from the really relevant things to me.

Absolutely agreed coaledsweat! All that crap the cable & network news is selling maybe great for ratings but how about getting back to what really affects us the middle class every day:

1. Lack of good jobs (they're all in India & our Air Force just ordered tanker aircraft....from Airbus in Europe!!)
2. Our houses are worth nothing anymore
3. How much is your healthcare costing you a year?
4. GI's being killed every day in Iraq (while Exxon-Mobil never had it so good)
5. Gasoline prices that will be over $4.00 by the summer
6. People can't heat their homes (except us, of course)
7. We cant afford Cancer research, school supplies, road/bridge repair or any meaningful infrastructure repairs in this country because our tax money is paying corrupt politicians in Iraq.


Getting to aggrivated..That's it! (but I'm so aggravated with ALL the politicians in Washington DC that I would be in favor of this: Let's throw ALL the bums out next election!! Every last one of them!!)

Devil5052 wrote:Getting to aggrivated..That's it! (but I'm so aggravated with ALL the politicians in Washington DC that I would be in favor of this: Let's throw ALL the bums out next election!! Every last one of them!!)

I can finally agree with you!

Devil5052 wrote:Getting to aggrivated..That's it! (but I'm so aggravated with ALL the politicians in Washington DC that I would be in favor of this: Let's throw ALL the bums out next election!! Every last one of them!!)

My favorite saying concerning politicians is, "Politicians are like babies in diapers, they both need changing for the same reason. They are both full of $hit!"

Devil5052 wrote:..That's it! (but I'm so aggravated with ALL the politicians in Washington DC that I would be in favor of this: Let's throw ALL the bums out next election!! Every last one of them!!)

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!

You want change...that is change!!!!

Every last one of them!!!

(not just the Bums though...the Bimbos too!!)

stockingfull wrote:
Really? Anybody here remember Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson right after 9/11?

And they are condemning someone because of their race where in that article?

Finally something we all agree on!! If they are incumbents........They are out!!


I am hereby announcing my candidacy for President of the United States...running under "The Anthracite Party of America"



Party Platform: (open to ideas here)

1. Every coal appliance qualifies for a 300% tax credit (for every year you own it!)
2. Coal will qualify for tax credits & all new cars must be converted to run on coal within 6 months!
3. Anyone who can prove he/she has been heating with coal for at least 3 years...........is hereby appointed to (an enlarged)Supreme Court!
4. All (good looking, young) women are hereby prohibited from wearing any clothing!
5. Coal burners will have windshield stickers that will exempt them from stopping at red lights.

Will someone second my platform?

BHO said his grandma is a "typical white person", the white grandma that "fears black men". Wait a minute I don't fear black men.
Way to unite. At this point he should just keep his mouth shut.
Video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4s45v ... erson_news

Seems the Rev. Wright's sermon was a little longer then was presented to us by the media in those sound bites.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/2 ... 92793.html

Wood'nCoal wrote:Seems the Rev. Wright's sermon was a little longer then was presented to us by the media in those sound bites.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/2 ... 92793.html

Now I have even less respect for Rev. Wright's if that is possible. I'll stick with one quote from the new material:

"We bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima....without batting an eye"

Mr. Wright should read some history before making such statements. I guess Mr. Wright never read the estimates by the War College of how many lives both Japanese and American were going to be lost if the U.S. had to invade Japan? Perhaps he never heard of place called Okinawa where its estimated up to 150,000 Japanese civialians were killed eclipsing the total of both atomic attacks combined. That's in addtion to the 66,000 japanese soldiers and 12,000 U.S. sevicemen killed.

WAs it brutal? Sure it was but the end result was a lot better than the alternative. Esitmate by the War college put the death toll in the millions on both sides if the U.S had to invade Japan. Fact is the bombing of those two cities saved untold amount of lives on both sides but most imporatantly it saved many lives of American servicemen. It wasn't us who started it, we just finished it.

Japan's geography made this invasion plan obvious to the Japanese as well, who were able to accurately deduce the Allied invasion plans and adjust their defensive plans accordingly. The Japanese planned an all-out defense of Kyūshū, with little left in reserve for any subsequent defense operations. Casualty predictions varied widely but were extremely high for both sides: depending on the degree to which Japanese civilians resisted the invasion, estimates ran into the millions for Allied casualties,[1] and tens of millions for Japanese casualties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

Actually the Reverend Wright's sermon was presented as a series of sound bites making it sound as if he was the author of those phrases you quoted. In the entire recording as presented on You Tube, Rev. Wright indicates that the comments were actually made by Edward Peck, he was including them as a "footnote". According to the article on the web page that I linked to Mr. Peck's comments were not quite the same as Rev. Wright's interpretation.

The possibility exists that the release of the portion of Rev. Wright's sermon-edited to make it sound like he was the author of those comments-was a move by the Clinton Political Machine to sway the public towards Hillary, giving the fact that her chance of becoming the Democratic candidate is rapidly fading.

BTW-regarding your comments about WW II and the bombing of Japan--Agreed.

Wood'nCoal wrote:Actually the Reverend Wright's sermon was presented as a series of sound bites making it sound as if he was the author of those phrases you quoted. In the entire recording as presented on You Tube, Rev. Wright indicates that the comments were actually made by Edward Peck,

Read the article and lsiten to his sermon closer. There's about 2 minutes where he is ranting where his footnote begins, obviously they are not all the words of the ambassdoor if any at all. The only other reference I can find to to those comments being attributed to Edward Peck is coincicdeatally from the same site you linked too:

Here is the 9/11 sermon, where Wright's "chickens come home to roost" comment was an embellishment and paraphrasing former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, Edward Peck in an interview on Fox. Wright calls 9/11 an "unthinkable" act and calls for nonviolence and an end to hatred.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lonnee-ha ... 92738.html

Unless someone points to another source you can assume nearly everything said in that sermon can be attributed to Rev. Wright and Rev. Wright alone.

Let's keep in mind that it was Rev. Wright who spoke those words......Not B. Obama , & his (Obama) remaining in that church does not mean he agreed with Rev. Wrights words, regardless of the spin that Fox News tries to put on things. Perhaps we can consider Obama's explanations themselves & realize that we are not responsible for the words of others, even if said in our presence. Let's get back to issues here, not spin.We've had enough of Fear Mongering & spin & look where it's landed us)

Richard S. wrote:

Wood'nCoal wrote:Actually the Reverend Wright's sermon was presented as a series of sound bites making it sound as if he was the author of those phrases you quoted. In the entire recording as presented on You Tube, Rev. Wright indicates that the comments were actually made by Edward Peck,

Read the article and lsiten to his sermon closer. There's about 2 minutes where he is ranting where his footnote begins, obviously they are not all the words of the ambassdoor if any at all. The only other reference I can find to to those comments being attributed to Edward Peck is coincicdeatally from the same site you linked too:

Here is the 9/11 sermon, where Wright's "chickens come home to roost" comment was an embellishment and paraphrasing former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, Edward Peck in an interview on Fox. Wright calls 9/11 an "unthinkable" act and calls for nonviolence and an end to hatred.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lonnee-ha ... 92738.html

Unless someone points to another source you can assume nearly everything said in that sermon can be attributed to Rev. Wright and Rev. Wright alone.

Agreed, Richard.

It's obvious that Rev. Wright has attributed the footnote to Edward Peck, but his words are much different then what Mr. Peck actually said. My reason for posting about this was to point out how the media took a snippet of the sermon and then yesterday when more of the sermon became known I heard one radio show where the host believed that everything the minister said during the footnote section was a word for word quote from Mr. Peck and then went on to blame Sean Hannity for releasing just the footnote section to forward his own agenda. Just an example of how the media can present misinformation as fact.