Idea for coal pickup

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: gaw On: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:27 am

Wardner wrote:
e.alleg wrote: The guys in NY that have tri-axles and are willing to work cheap can't go into PA, and vice versa for the PA guys


Seems like there may be a misunderstanding about the International Fuel Tax Agreement (IFTA).

Both PA and NY recognize the IFTA fuel sticker. In fact, all vehicles registered over 26,000 lbs in both states are required to report total fuel usage on a quarterly basis. This applies to every state except AK, HI, the District of Columbia, and some parts of Mexico and Canada. The form has line items for mileage for each state. A NY truck will not be stopped in PA for fuel tax evasion unless he has failed to submit the quarterly report.

Here is a FAQ regarding the IFTA.

http://www.boe.ca.gov/sptaxprog/mciftafaqs.htm

Seeing as how I don't live in NY or PA, there may be other permit requirements that I am not aware of. My apologies if that is the case.

You will need an apportioned license plate and New York and Pennsylvania will have to be listed on the list of states apportioned for on the owners card. New York also requires a HUT sticker on the bumper. If you get pulled over by a DOT cop you will need more than just the IFTA sticker on the cab.
gaw
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice from Schuylkill County

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: gaw On: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:39 am

If anyone ever travels US-30 near Paradise, PA there are usually some dump trailers for sale parked along the road. They are brand new, look to be aluminum body and are high lifts just like a coal delivery truck. They are usually parked with the dump bodies about 12' in the air. I always look longingly as I go by, but they are probably much too expensive for my blood. I think they would make excellent coal haulers if you wanted to shoot the coal directly into a basement bin.
gaw
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice from Schuylkill County

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: e.alleg On: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:55 pm

Another option is to use a 2 axle livestock trailer, they have (2) 3500lb axles so 7,000lbs rating. I need one anyway for the farm and business. I would have to use 55 gallon drums and fill them by hand or (??) at the breaker and then handtruck them into the trailer. It would make it easier on the wallet but take more time. I just bought some more coal today $235 a ton plus tax so doing it myself is looking better and better. The dealer said the summer price will most likely be higher than it is now. :sick:
e.alleg
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520


Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:59 am

coal berner wrote:Or you can call the coal breaker and get delivered but you would need room for 20 to 25 tons tri - axel load or 38Ft dump trailer 30tons Or PM wood ncoal he lives in Stillwater NJ Maybe you could pay him to come up and get coal for you he knows where the good stuff is I don't Know if he would but he might if you are not that far from him and you make it worth his time & work



This is the U-Haul trailer I rented with 2 ton in it, 1 nut/1 buck. As you can see it can hold more. $29.95 per day. I need to make another run to Superior soon TVB, let me know if you want to split the costs and get some real coal.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:06 am

Is the plywood your handy work or is the trailer set up like that? Also, what is that trailer rated for and what are you towing it with? I think a trailer to PA this year is going to be my best option so I'm interested in your experience. I've got a 3/4 ton dodge ram with the cummins diesel so I know the weight won't be an issue for the truck.
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:46 am

e.alleg wrote:Another option is to use a 2 axle livestock trailer, they have (2) 3500lb axles so 7,000lbs rating. I need one anyway for the farm and business. I would have to use 55 gallon drums and fill them by hand or (??) at the breaker and then handtruck them into the trailer. It would make it easier on the wallet but take more time. I just bought some more coal today $235 a ton plus tax so doing it myself is looking better and better. The dealer said the summer price will most likely be higher than it is now. :sick:
Hi Ed. hate to tell you but Nunn of the Breaker's I go to will leave you take drums off and fill them and put them back on the trailer to much time and to much coal on the ground Must be a open top truck or trailer Look in the forsale section on here nice dump trailer forsale ;)
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:54 am

coalkirk wrote:Is the plywood your handy work or is the trailer set up like that? Also, what is that trailer rated for and what are you towing it with? I think a trailer to PA this year is going to be my best option so I'm interested in your experience. I've got a 3/4 ton dodge ram with the cummins diesel so I know the weight won't be an issue for the truck.
Hi coalkirk no Plywood you got to put your own on 6x12 trailer U Haul say 1900lbs I took a few members with them
to get coal including wood ncoal You can put 4 to 4.5 tons on with know problems and still have room between the tires and fenders they are build well nice heavy springs and brakes http://www.uhaul.com
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: Idea for coal pickup

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:20 am

coalkirk wrote:Is the plywood your handy work or is the trailer set up like that? Also, what is that trailer rated for and what are you towing it with? I think a trailer to PA this year is going to be my best option so I'm interested in your experience. I've got a 3/4 ton dodge ram with the cummins diesel so I know the weight won't be an issue for the truck.


Coalkirk, your truck will have no problem pulling that trailer. I pulled it with a Ford E-250 van. As Coal Berner said you can load a lot more then 2 tons in it. I installed the plywood because I was getting 2 different sizes of coal. I did have a little problem with swaying if I got the speed up to high an the highway, though, the more weight you can get up in the front of the trailer the less sway will will have. Plus with a pick-up you can put a load in the bed of the truck as well.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert