John Sidney McCain

Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:58 pm

Everybody in the WTC on 9/11 wish they were issued a parachutes. God rest there souls.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:35 pm

Devil5052 wrote:Sorry Richard but I don't ever remember seeing anyone casualy strolling down Beacon St. in Boston wearing a flak jacket & Kevlar helmet.


You're not supposed to see it. It looks like normal clothing, including headgear fashioned to look like fedoras, briefcases, coats, suit jackets, umbrellas,... anything really. I wouldn't doubt Bush, Cheney, O'bama, Hillary or any other highly public figure is wearing such garments whenever possible when they make public appearances where the situation can be unpredictable. I know if I was running for president or was the president that I'd have such garments on.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:47 pm


http://www.securityprousa.com/wobucobuands.html
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Richard S. wrote:
Devil5052 wrote:Sorry Richard but I don't ever remember seeing anyone casualy strolling down Beacon St. in Boston wearing a flak jacket & Kevlar helmet.


You're not supposed to see it. It looks like normal clothing, including headgear fashioned to look like fedoras, briefcases, coats, suit jackets, umbrellas,... anything really. I wouldn't doubt Bush, Cheney, O'bama, Hillary or any other highly public figure is wearing such garments whenever possible when they make public appearances where the situation can be unpredictable. I know if I was running for president or was the president that I'd have such garments on.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:04 am

spc wrote:Everybody in the WTC on 9/11 wish they were issued a parachutes. God rest there souls.



Yeah....& let's not forget:
Pearl Harbor
The Great Chicago Fire
San Fransisco Earthquake
and all other bad things that Iraq had nothing to do with.

You've been brainwashed by this administration. Even their own reports admitt Iraq was not involved.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:28 am

Devil5052 wrote:
BugsyR wrote:Crap...forgot one more off the wall opinion.
Flak jacket...I'd wear one... if I was there.
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So would I.....I wasn't writing to critisize Sen. McCain's wearing one. Quite the contrary, anyone in as dangerous a place for Anericans as Iraq would have to be suicidal not to wear body armor......That is exactly my point. They are trying to convince us that Iraq is not as dangerous a place as we can see that it is! They are simply lying to the US voters about the real situation in Iraq.............again!


I've never heard anyone say the Iraq is a safe place. What I heard was is that it is safer, relative to earlier when there were 200+ attacks per day. Based on the number of attacks, statically it's 60% less violent. Not "safe" by any means. I don't think even the adminsistration would have the nerve to say that.
I have to say that when I saw McCain get off of the chopper in that kevlar helmet, it was a Dukakis moment. Next time, he really should take it off before getting off the chopper. I think politicians think it makes them look macho if they are photographed in military garb. Nope, just silly.
I would say it takes some stones just to fly in a chopper over Iraq as AK rounds etc. are probably fired at them routinely.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:38 am

Forget flak jackets. Here's an easy test: Iraq will be safe when our politicians no longer have to make "secret visits."
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:44 am

Devil5052 wrote:
spc wrote:Everybody in the WTC on 9/11 wish they were issued a parachutes. God rest there souls.



Yeah....& let's not forget:
Pearl Harbor
The Great Chicago Fire
San Fransisco Earthquake
and all other bad things that Iraq had nothing to do with.

You've been brainwashed by this administration. Even their own reports admitt Iraq was not involved.
I know there was no operational connection for 9/11. But I guess I have to keep reminding you of this:

Your party "the Democrats" said Iraq was a "rogue state" with WMDs (GWB was still in Texas) but they just didn't have the BALLS to do anything about it. Bill probably did a poll to see if it was popular to go to war. Would you have wanted your grandchildren to deal with Uda & Cusi? You should get on your knee's & thank God that we have a President who made a tough decision knowing the political consequences.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:03 am

I agree with you. We had a brilliant plan to win the war, but apparently nobody planned to win the peace. Paul Bremers descision to disband the Iraqi military (and yes, approved up the chain of command to GWB) was a huge blunder. Many such blunders were made. Look, waging a war in an area the size of Iraq, with it's cultural differences and conflicts going back thousands of years wasn't going to be easy even if everything had been done right. Some things are unpredictable but this insurgance, in light of suddenly 10's of thousands of Iraqi soldiers being out of a job was predictable and inevitable. Add to that Iranian ambitions and you've got a fire with fuel.
The Iraqi parliment better get their *censored* together fast. If they stop squabbling and start working together, a government where Sunni, Shia, Bathists and Kurds feel like they have a say and a stake in its sucess can be forged. That's the only way we are withdrawing from Iraq in any meaningfull way no matter which of the three poor excuses for presidential candidates wins. It doesn't matter what they are saying now, none of them are going to pull our troops out to the point where the current tenous stability in Iraq will be threatened. Politicians and lawyers have a thing that gives them away when they are lieing, their lips are moving.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:51 am

coalkirk wrote:I agree with you. We had a brilliant plan to win the war, but apparently nobody planned to win the peace. Paul Bremers descision to disband the Iraqi military (and yes, approved up the chain of command to GWB) was a huge blunder. Many such blunders were made. Look, waging a war in an area the size of Iraq, with it's cultural differences and conflicts going back thousands of years wasn't going to be easy even if everything had been done right. Some things are unpredictable but this insurgance, in light of suddenly 10's of thousands of Iraqi soldiers being out of a job was predictable and inevitable. Add to that Iranian ambitions and you've got a fire with fuel.
The Iraqi parliment better get their *censored* together fast. If they stop squabbling and start working together, a government where Sunni, Shia, Bathists and Kurds feel like they have a say and a stake in its sucess can be forged. That's the only way we are withdrawing from Iraq in any meaningfull way no matter which of the three poor excuses for presidential candidates wins. It doesn't matter what they are saying now, none of them are going to pull our troops out to the point where the current tenous stability in Iraq will be threatened. Politicians and lawyers have a thing that gives them away when they are lieing, their lips are moving.


Colin Powell told the Shrub this would happen. "Break it and you've bought it," I believe, was the analogy.

Remember Marshall Tito? Same thing. He died, the world got the Balkans back, with another insoluble religious mess.

Only difference is Tito just croaked; we killed Saddam. For really no goddam good reason, other than that he'd tried to knock off the President's old man, of course. Right out of Shakespeare.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:03 pm

stockingfull wrote:Only difference is Tito just croaked; we killed Saddam. For really no goddam good reason, other than that he'd tried to knock off the President's old man, of course. Right out of Shakespeare.
You can't come to terms with that video. There is no way to explain it away so I guess you just ignore it. And God forgive him.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:57 pm

spc wrote:
stockingfull wrote:Only difference is Tito just croaked; we killed Saddam. For really no goddam good reason, other than that he'd tried to knock off the President's old man, of course. Right out of Shakespeare.
You can't come to terms with that video. There is no way to explain it away so I guess you just ignore it. And God forgive him.


Bush gave the order to go in, rather than to follow through on the weapons inspections. The war resolution was sold to Congress and was to portrayed as the "bad cop;" trouble is, Bush was no "good cop" for the reasons stated. He flew under false colors, in the wave of adrenaline after 9/11, to get the resolution he wanted to accomplish his personal vendetta.

And I join in your request that God forgive him.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:17 pm

Still can't come to terms with that video. It's not going away.

And yes, I pray that God forgives all of us especial those who use His name vain.
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:29 pm

JSM TV ad remixed. Listen to the lyrics. :)

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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:02 am

JSM on Letterman, too funny:


http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=e17ea20c-c2dc-41fb-a8c8-d5df25079776
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Re: John Sidney McCain

PostBy: spc On: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:53 pm

JSM by his own wishes, is not being protected by the Secret Service. :verycool:
In contrast, BO became the earliest presidential candidate to receive protection on May 3, 2007. :fear:


http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/no-secret-service-for-mccain-2008-04-03.html
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