Our Glenwood 109

I'm not sure ccm, my stove was running about 475.

Neat picture, Tom. It looks like a small volcano !

It might be that regular refractory cement will not glow like that, and the original firebrick clay that Glenwood used will glow ???? I see brick seams, so maybe Tom's 109 has fire bricks made from the special clay for that purpose ?

The original bricks that were still in my #6 when I got it from Wilson are a dull, red-ish clay, not like refractory cement at all.

Paul

SB, this is the refractory that Wilson put in my stove. He made seams using cardboard, my guess is room for expansion to avoid cracking.

tcalo wrote:SB, this is the refractory that Wilson put in my stove. He made seams using cardboard, my guess is room for expansion to avoid cracking.

Ok. Yes, he does that like they do with expansion joints in poured concrete slabs - create gaps to help relieve expansion stress when the refractory is expanding/contracting from thermal stress.

Your stove's refractory might glow when other refractories don't because of the brand of refractory he used ? He was a boiler maker for over 30 years so I'm sure he knows about all the different brands/types. I don't know what he uses for lining firepots like yours, I just know he recommended that I use the Rutland castable for the #6 brick molds I made.

Paul

William has made comments about his firebrick glowing as well...I see it in my C40 too. I think though that the C2 I ran one season did it more/brighter.

These suspended pot BB's continually amaze me, be it Kineo, Magee, Glenwood or Crawford.

scalabro wrote:William has made comments about his firebrick glowing as well...I see it in my C40 too. I think though that the C2 I ran one season did it more/brighter.

These suspended pot BB's continually amaze me, be it Kineo, Magee, Glenwood or Crawford.

That could be the reason right there. The refractory is not losing heat up against an outside surface of the stove.

I know one thing for sure, .... that design of stove makes the owners glow ! Sometimes, they even glow-t.

Paul

suspended fire pot stove .......someday ill add one to my collection. If only 113s, were more common

Tom, Is that "glow" a reflection of the burning hot coals from below, or is the actual refractory itself burning orange?

When my Crawford is ginning along, the bricks actually become incandescent orange. It's not a reflection.

Man, if those bricks are that hot, they're not just "insulating" the metal firepot, but actually radiating heat, along with the coals? I didn't know that was a feature/function of the refractory.

Good to see you posting William.

joeq wrote:Tom, Is that "glow" a reflection of the burning hot coals from below, or is the actual refractory itself burning orange?

Joe, the refractory is actually glowing. Kinda neat! That's right after the bridge collapsed.

scalabro wrote:These suspended pot BB's continually amaze me, be it Kineo, Magee, Glenwood or Crawford.

Absolutely, I say that to myself everyday! Man those old timers knew what they were doing.

I figured I would post this here rather then start a new thread, since it pertains to this stove (I believe). The subject...dust!!

I have a Chubby and played with it for years... . I circulate the heat with duct work running through my attic. I have a filtered intake register above the stove and discharge registers in the bedrooms. There is an inline fan in the attic. My setup is explained in this thread for those not familiar with it. Fan Direction. I've never had a dust issue.

I put my G109 into service last December, Christmas day to be exact! Most of last season was spent learning the stove. I have a good grasp on her now and have been using it since Halloween. Shortly after the season started I noticed my filters getting clogged rather quickly. I would normally go about a week before filter changes when running the Chubby. It seems I am forced to change the filter every 2-3 days now. I decided to experiment a bit and removed the filter for a few weeks. I noticed the duct work inside the intake register starting to get a coating of dust on it. I've also noticed quite a bit of dust throughout the house. There is also dust buildup around the bottom of the barrel on the base. Here is a good thread on air filtration that one member goes into detail about explaining that dust happens, it's everywhere! dlj @ Air Filtration for Your House.. Very true, but I am pretty sure this is from the stove. There is a light gray film on the windows, mostly in the stove room. I am starting to notice this same gray film throughout the house. I just took my Christmas tree down and sure enough all the balls on the tree had gray dust on them. Maybe from Santa's dirty little elves playing tricks on me... . I'm quite sure it's not dust from our clothes or upholstery. I adopted 2 kittens last fall. I have the litter box in the stove room. There is some dust when stirring up the litter, either when cleaning it or when the cats are doing their business. Although not a plum of dust, it could be the cause. I don't recall seeing the dust throughout the summer though. I had a top for the litter box which I just put back on. There are quite a few spots that aren't so air tight on the G109 as compared to the Chubby.

I never had this issue when using the Chubby. I am extremely anal about cleanliness and neatness, just ask my wife... . So for me to notice this than it is an issue. I am extremely careful when tending the stove in any way, I even use the internal check when moving the ash pan around. All the stove joints are tight. I was thinking I may be getting dust from the baro, but I had it installed with the Chubby as well. Besides, the flue should always have negative pressure so nothing should ever come out of the baro...in a perfect world. So the dilemma, what to do??? I thought about getting an air purifier, added expense and more noise...boo! I put a filter back in the register this morning. I don't mind dusting, but I don't know if it's a hazard to our health and Lord knows I don't want to find out! I may need to hook the Chubby back up. I would like to know if anyone else with an antique stove has experienced issues with coal dust in their home? Or am I ready to finally get fitted for that straight jacket?

My H MKII made way more dust during servicing than either of the two Crawford's. Do I get dust on the mantle? Yes. When I pull out the drop grate I get a bit. When I remove the ash pan a very small amount.

What type of heat do you have in your house Tom, forced hot air?

scalabro wrote:What type of heat do you have in your house Tom, forced hot air?

Baseboard oil heat. I rarely use it.