Our Glenwood 109
- Sunny Boy
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What type of kitty litter do you buy ?
Having had lots of cats over the years I gave up on the cheaper kitty litter. The only way the stove could out do it for dust was to dump the ash pan on the floor.
Even the "dust free" kitty litter can be rather dusty.
And kittens are not the best at keeping the dust down in the litter box. Heck they're not good at keeping the litter in the box ! I raised four of them here two years ago until they were weaned enough to go to new homes. Sweeping up around the cat box was an everyday job.
Paul
Having had lots of cats over the years I gave up on the cheaper kitty litter. The only way the stove could out do it for dust was to dump the ash pan on the floor.
Even the "dust free" kitty litter can be rather dusty.
And kittens are not the best at keeping the dust down in the litter box. Heck they're not good at keeping the litter in the box ! I raised four of them here two years ago until they were weaned enough to go to new homes. Sweeping up around the cat box was an everyday job.
Paul
- tcalo
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I use Purina tidy cats in the 27lb plastic pails. I have a litter box with a lid. I took the lid off and it got messy. Sweeping up litter every other day. I just put the lid back on, maybe it will help.Sunny Boy wrote:What type of kitty litter do you buy ?
Having had lots of cats over the years I gave up on the cheaper kitty litter. The only way the stove could out do it for dust was to dump the ash pan on the floor.
Even the "dust free" kitty litter can be rather dusty.
And kittens are not the best at keeping the dust down in the litter box. Heck they're not good at keeping the litter in the box ! I raised four of them here two years ago until they were weaned enough to go to new homes. Sweeping up around the cat box was an everyday job.
Paul
- joeq
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Tom, with my 111, I have dust in my house, but then again, we "always" have dust. Even before the stoves, and in the summer, when the forced hot air heat is off. (We're not that anal, cause it's not "piles" just a thin film once in a while. Nothing a little Pledge won't take care of)
I load my hods, and M/T my ash-pans outside, so as not to get it airborn inside. However, when I'm servicing the stove, sometimes when I riddle through the klinker door, I'll get a splash back of ash, that will need vacuuming. (I keep a small vacuum next to my stove, at all times).
In your case, you said you've narrowed it down to the 109, and am questioning the baro. Not sure why you need the baro, (maybe your location is windier than mine), but if you suspect that as a culprit, just block it off for a week or 2. Don't think you'll miss it. also you mentioned last year you were going to move your intake duct above the stove, "somewhere else". Have you tried this yet?
Now that we have some cold air, how is your 109 keeping up? Do you use it all the time, as a primary heat source, or do you use your Chubby too?. (Or other heating device?)
I load my hods, and M/T my ash-pans outside, so as not to get it airborn inside. However, when I'm servicing the stove, sometimes when I riddle through the klinker door, I'll get a splash back of ash, that will need vacuuming. (I keep a small vacuum next to my stove, at all times).
In your case, you said you've narrowed it down to the 109, and am questioning the baro. Not sure why you need the baro, (maybe your location is windier than mine), but if you suspect that as a culprit, just block it off for a week or 2. Don't think you'll miss it. also you mentioned last year you were going to move your intake duct above the stove, "somewhere else". Have you tried this yet?
Now that we have some cold air, how is your 109 keeping up? Do you use it all the time, as a primary heat source, or do you use your Chubby too?. (Or other heating device?)
- tcalo
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Joe, I've tweaked the G109 to near perfection. It's our primary heat source. I do still have the oil burner on, just set real low. It'll pick up that slack from time to time. Outside temp was just about in the teens last night and the G109 was keeping our home plenty warm. It's a great little stove. I'm tending 3 times a day in these temps. Honestly, I love it!joeq wrote:Now that we have some cold air, how is your 109 keeping up? Do you use it all the time, as a primary heat source, or do you use your Chubby too?. (Or other heating device?)
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I'm thinking that forced air duct you installed in the end rooms is the ultimate. One question. Are the registers in the bedrooms on the ceiling? With hot air rising, I guess the fan blows all the heated air downward. And it works good?
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Joe, it works great. I have an intake register on the ceiling above the stove and 4 discharge registers on the ceilings, 3 bedrooms and a bathroom all on the other side of the house. There is about a 3-5 degree difference between the entire house, not too bad. There is a noticeable difference in temps though between the air close to the floor and the air closer to the ceiling. The air by the floor is a bit cooler. I could also feel the cooler air moving back to the stove room along the floor. My boss gave me the idea. He has a fire place with an insert and ran duct work through his basement and installed floor vents. I lucked out as I have a ranch and an open attic.
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All things equal the 109 is a cleaner stove to service hands down. Something's certainly up
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(You beat me by 3 mins Scott)
So in your bosses house Tom, his insert blows heated air downward into the ducts, and they terminate on the bedroom floors?
I know what you mean about the floors being cooler. Mine too. The things we must live with, with a "room heater", and not a ducted furnace. Williams set-up with his G6 looks efficient, with it located in his basement. I'm sure his floors are warm, and he has vents going up to his living area. Problem with that, is you're the only one who gets to enjoy the "visual entertainment" of these antique stoves. No-one else knows it's there. (Unless you take them down and show them). Mine is located in the foyer, (small house) and everyone who comes in see's it 12 months out of the year. Course, there are people who really don't like the style, but you know what they say. "You can't please every-one all the time"...no matter how hard we try.
So in your bosses house Tom, his insert blows heated air downward into the ducts, and they terminate on the bedroom floors?
I know what you mean about the floors being cooler. Mine too. The things we must live with, with a "room heater", and not a ducted furnace. Williams set-up with his G6 looks efficient, with it located in his basement. I'm sure his floors are warm, and he has vents going up to his living area. Problem with that, is you're the only one who gets to enjoy the "visual entertainment" of these antique stoves. No-one else knows it's there. (Unless you take them down and show them). Mine is located in the foyer, (small house) and everyone who comes in see's it 12 months out of the year. Course, there are people who really don't like the style, but you know what they say. "You can't please every-one all the time"...no matter how hard we try.
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That was my thread about the dust. I was looking more for feedback to see if people used any type of stand alone air filtration before I went out and got something. I do many of the same things you do, ash pan outside, etc. and follow many of the same rules as others have stated, but I still get a fine layer of ash dust in the house. Its not unbearable, but noticeable. I did end up getting an inexpensive air filter and it does make a difference.tcalo wrote:I figured I would post this here rather then start a new thread, since it pertains to this stove (I believe). The subject...dust!!
I have a Chubby and played with it for years... ........
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Tom, you mentioned possibly the baro is ingesting dust, or in your letter with this problem last year, you mentioned moving your intake from directly above the stove, ( and from being next to the stove pipe), to somewhere else. Filters are just a band-aid for the problem. I would think you would need to eliminate the source. The easiest thing would be to block your baro for a week or 2 and see if it helps. But I can see moving the intake could be a little more extensive, and would be more practical in the nicer weather.
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So it's been about 24 hours since last tending the Glenwood, and she's still chugging along. I just got home from work and was hoping it would be out. I recently refurbished my Chubby and planned on swapping out the stoves tonight. Looks like it'll have to wait until the morning.
I know someone is thinking...why swap out the stoves! Well, I've run into an issue recently and am experimenting. I have an intake register with a filter cut into the ceiling above my stove. All season it's been fine and I've been changing the filters weekly. Lately the filters have been getting clogged about every 2-3 days and I've noticed a coating of fine (and I mean fine) dust throughout the house, even in the kitchen cabinets. I've never had the dust issue when running the Chubby, at least not that I can remember...but I did turn 40 last year so I may be forgetting things! I believe I did run into the clogged filter issue though. It seems the flue needs cleaning out mid season. Time to experiment and get some hard data! I'm not sure if the Glenwood is to blame for the added dust or clogged filters. I have a feeling it may be coming from my flue, about time for a cleaning I guess. Maybe it's falling out of the baro or pipe seams? The flue should always have a negative draft...so this is a head scratcher.
Bottom line...24 hour burn and still chugging along...wow!
I know someone is thinking...why swap out the stoves! Well, I've run into an issue recently and am experimenting. I have an intake register with a filter cut into the ceiling above my stove. All season it's been fine and I've been changing the filters weekly. Lately the filters have been getting clogged about every 2-3 days and I've noticed a coating of fine (and I mean fine) dust throughout the house, even in the kitchen cabinets. I've never had the dust issue when running the Chubby, at least not that I can remember...but I did turn 40 last year so I may be forgetting things! I believe I did run into the clogged filter issue though. It seems the flue needs cleaning out mid season. Time to experiment and get some hard data! I'm not sure if the Glenwood is to blame for the added dust or clogged filters. I have a feeling it may be coming from my flue, about time for a cleaning I guess. Maybe it's falling out of the baro or pipe seams? The flue should always have a negative draft...so this is a head scratcher.
Bottom line...24 hour burn and still chugging along...wow!
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24 hours, and that's the little guy. Imagine if you had a 113 ? Load it up on Sunday and run all week.
Finding the dust source can be a real puzzle. Have you made any changes in how you deal with shaking, grate poking, and taking out the ashes ?
Can you put a few bright lights near the stove to observe how any dust travels ?
Paul
Finding the dust source can be a real puzzle. Have you made any changes in how you deal with shaking, grate poking, and taking out the ashes ?
Can you put a few bright lights near the stove to observe how any dust travels ?
Paul