A Look at Solar in 2016
- franpipeman
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https://enlighten.enphaseenergy.com/public_systems
using the above link one can access residential solar powered by a micro inverters world wide and track their production for those owners who allow it . This kind of system is grid connected it will not produce power in event of power failure as a safety measure to utility workers.
placing link is ok ?
using the above link one can access residential solar powered by a micro inverters world wide and track their production for those owners who allow it . This kind of system is grid connected it will not produce power in event of power failure as a safety measure to utility workers.
placing link is ok ?
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My Champion generator 1400W (TSC) for $150 will run your Pocono and then some and sips gas. So the question is (as usual) do you want to protect yourself from a 3 hr, 3 day, 3 week or three year power outage. These are personal choices that no one can advise you on. Personally I think your 5000 watt unit is just fine. I am not a fan of the solar generator.All I want is an inexpensive Solar Generator to keep a few lights and especially my Pocono going in the winter. I do have a 5000 watt generator, but if the grid goes to hell or we have huge power failure I still will not be able to get gas. Look what happened in Jersey and NYC.
If your a total crackpot you will have 3 years of coal on hand and a Glenwood #8 and a RC Garnet #48 to go the whole three years. However, that sort of insanity is reserved for broken down old horse farmers with brain damage from too much IPA.
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Thats what a lot of people think if the grid goes down, and you have solar panels, you still have electricity. The Enphase inverters monitor grid power, and turn off if there is no grid power. Unless you have a hybrid system, with battery backup and inverters.
The panels do produce a bit more in the winter being colder, they work better.
The panels do produce a bit more in the winter being colder, they work better.
- McGiever
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Solar energy in Texas rides into town
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- franpipeman
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automatic report of my sons system He infrastructure can support 10 more panels all he has to do is hang .plug and play. so he could be making 936 kWh per month but he has other stuff on his plate at this time
Week Peak Power Energy Produced
08/01/2015 - 08/07/2015 4.92 kW 169 kWh
08/08/2015 - 08/14/2015 4.78 kW 145 kWh
08/15/2015 - 08/21/2015 4.51 kW 139 kWh
08/22/2015 - 08/28/2015 4.76 kW 126 kWh
08/29/2015 - 08/31/2015 4.39 kW 56.7 kWh
August 2015 Total: 636 kWh
Previous Month Total: 635 kWh
Year to Date: 4.43 MWh
Week Peak Power Energy Produced
08/01/2015 - 08/07/2015 4.92 kW 169 kWh
08/08/2015 - 08/14/2015 4.78 kW 145 kWh
08/15/2015 - 08/21/2015 4.51 kW 139 kWh
08/22/2015 - 08/28/2015 4.76 kW 126 kWh
08/29/2015 - 08/31/2015 4.39 kW 56.7 kWh
August 2015 Total: 636 kWh
Previous Month Total: 635 kWh
Year to Date: 4.43 MWh
- McGiever
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Why not here too?
- franpipeman
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I Did not watch the video , not enough t time and I don't understand the question of" Why not here too? " it is sunday night and I ve had a few fermented cocktails.
I will finally announce my end game " coal is solar energy , stored in a inefficient way . "
I will finally announce my end game " coal is solar energy , stored in a inefficient way . "
- McGiever
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It is in Canada and it is being strongly promoted by the government there to help solve a very serious problem that the US is in even worse shape over and yet continues on and on to drag it's feet.franpipeman wrote:I Did not watch the video , not enough t time and I don't understand the question of" Why not here too? " it is sunday night and I ve had a few fermented cocktails.
I will finally announce my end game " coal is solar energy , stored in a inefficient way . "
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Sane people ruin everything! I support every 'muricans' right to burn coal, re-load 5.56 & .45 ammo, and install solar panels. I burn, reload, and installed a 1.2Kw (expanadable to 4Kw) solar system with battery back up that actually pushes a couple hundred watts back to the utility on the sunniest of days. Financially, I save money by burning coal and reloading. I will never recoup my solar cost. Solar is seductive, $5K later, I stopped. However, I can survive 72 hours without my wife even having a clue that the electricity is off. I live in an isolated area that endures frequent power blips. My wife barely understands how to start her car. With my solar+battery install, she finds out about the power blips from the neighbors. Further, a search of this forum will lead you to the insane debates on the damage done/not done to the single phase, shaded pole motors that power our stoves.coalnewbie wrote:My Champion generator 1400W (TSC) for $150 will run your Pocono and then some and sips gas. So the question is (as usual) do you want to protect yourself from a 3 hr, 3 day, 3 week or three year power outage. These are personal choices that no one can advise you on. Personally I think your 5000 watt unit is just fine. I am not a fan of the solar generator.All I want is an inexpensive Solar Generator to keep a few lights and especially my Pocono going in the winter. I do have a 5000 watt generator, but if the grid goes to hell or we have huge power failure I still will not be able to get gas. Look what happened in Jersey and NYC.
If your a total crackpot you will have 3 years of coal on hand and a Glenwood #8 and a RC Garnet #48 to go the whole three years. However, that sort of insanity is reserved for broken down old horse farmers with brain damage from too much IPA.
I am an industrial electrician with 25+ years experience. Coalnewbie, the least expensive way to ease your mind is to purchase a pure "sine" wave liquid propane generator and buy a several 100lb tanks.
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- Djcoak6071
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When tied to the grid, unless you have a system that will disconnect in a power outage, you achieve nothing other than saving money, which is fine for some, and electricity for free is a nice idea. However if it won't give me power when the grid is down what's the point? In that situation you are no more energy independent than anyone else, you just rely on the power company to buy power from you to offset cost. And they wouldn't buy your power if the government didn't force them to. How long can that business model be sustained.....
- Djcoak6071
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Sane people ruin everything! I support every 'muricans' right to burn coal, re-load 5.56 & .45 ammo, and install solar panels. I burn, reload, and installed a 1.2Kw (expanadable to 4Kw) solar system with battery back up that actually pushes a couple hundred watts back to the utility on the sunniest of days. Financially, I save money by burning coal and reloading. I will never recoup my solar cost. Solar is seductive, $5K later, I stopped. However, I can survive 72 hours without my wife even having a clue that the electricity is off. I live in an isolated area that endures frequent power blips. My wife barely understands how to start her car. With my solar+battery install, she finds out about the power blips from the neighbors. Further, a search of this forum will lead you to the insane debates on the damage done/not done to the single phase, shaded pole motors that power our stoves.
I am an industrial electrician with 25+ years experience. Coalnewbie, the least expensive way to ease your mind is to purchase a pure "sine" wave liquid propane generator and buy a several 100lb tanks.
emposter your system is what I want. I have no fantasies on solar, however it would be great for the system to run my essential items for a few days in a complete outage, and if need be only use the gen to recharge the batteries if I had to
I am an industrial electrician with 25+ years experience. Coalnewbie, the least expensive way to ease your mind is to purchase a pure "sine" wave liquid propane generator and buy a several 100lb tanks.
emposter your system is what I want. I have no fantasies on solar, however it would be great for the system to run my essential items for a few days in a complete outage, and if need be only use the gen to recharge the batteries if I had to
- McGiever
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The release of the Tesla PowerWall and then the reviews that follow the releases will change how stand-by power is viewed forever. Not only just stand-by power, but even how the electric grid will be utilized, as for brown-outs, black-outs and off-peak or time-of-use incentives will be easy to deal with.
Many industries are already hurriedly preparing their own adaptations for incorporating these Power Wall units into their own product lines.
Solar is just one such industry that can benefit with little to no adaptation.
Many industries are already hurriedly preparing their own adaptations for incorporating these Power Wall units into their own product lines.
Solar is just one such industry that can benefit with little to no adaptation.
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On the surface, that power wall system sounds like a good idea.
Sometimes it's not all about the coin or ROE.
I'd like to be free from the grid, just because
In my mind, off grid means "less"
My idea would be smaller post & beam, say 750 sq ft. With a loft on each end. Or a similar sized steel A frame.
1 "Naked" (no tin work or ducts) centrally located "Octopus" for heat with its stack naked all the way to the roof.
48 volt DC lighting and appliances.
7500- 10K watts of solar panels on a copper raised seam roof.
880 AH aircraft lead acid battery bank.
Two 10kw inverters in parallel.
1 Glenwood "Home Grand" with a "warming oven" hot water loop and gas side car.
2, 1000 gal buried propane tanks.
Anything else?
Sometimes it's not all about the coin or ROE.
I'd like to be free from the grid, just because
In my mind, off grid means "less"
My idea would be smaller post & beam, say 750 sq ft. With a loft on each end. Or a similar sized steel A frame.
1 "Naked" (no tin work or ducts) centrally located "Octopus" for heat with its stack naked all the way to the roof.
48 volt DC lighting and appliances.
7500- 10K watts of solar panels on a copper raised seam roof.
880 AH aircraft lead acid battery bank.
Two 10kw inverters in parallel.
1 Glenwood "Home Grand" with a "warming oven" hot water loop and gas side car.
2, 1000 gal buried propane tanks.
Anything else?