Need Some Advice Re Garage Computer Internet

 
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Post by cabinover » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 9:20 am

I'm sure some of you guys have made this happen but I'm a bit lost on how to do it. I have Comcast cable into the house with an ethernet cable from the wireless router to the computer. I'd like to get internet in the garage for streaming music. I have an older computer with Win7 on it that would work for that purpose.

The wireless won't work at it's about 85' away. Already have a multi-wire cable in the ground that I put there just because. I only use 2 wires of it for a T-stat line presently. I could probably connect to it on both ends or....I could buy a 100' roll of cat 5 wire or something....or a 100' ethernet cable?

What do you more techy guys think is the easiest way to get this done?


 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 9:25 am

I assume the garage has an electrical feed from the house? If so, look up Ethernet over power. They make adapters that allow you to send Ethernet over the homes electrical wiring.

Another option is a wireless repeater, or pull a new cable.

 
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Post by cabinover » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 9:33 am

Actually the house has it's feed from the garage. I think in the end it's just going to be easier to run a new cable. Should be able to bury down a couple inches and be fine, it's all grass that's mowed.

Would this do the job? http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-100-Foot-Snagless-Mo ... B00006HUJU

All I would need is an ethernet splitter then right?

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 12:36 pm

cabinover wrote:All I would need is an ethernet splitter then right?
I don't think an Ethernet can be split. It would need it's own port on the router. Does the router have more than one port? (Mine has 4 ports for hard wiring Ethernet devices)

 
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Post by cabinover » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 1:26 pm

The back of my router has 5 holes, marked WAN, LAN, LAN,LAN,LAN. The WAN comes from the modem and the 1st LAN goes to my computer. Does that mean I just plug into the 2nd LAN hole and run that to the garage?

Then I need to figure out the next step. 100' will just put me into the garage. From there I need about 20' to one computer and would like to run about 75' to an upstairs location for the future. Would the easiest way be to buy a switch like the one below or here is an ethernet splitter according to it's description. The two garage runs would not be used at the same time.

http://www.staples.com/Insten-pothrj45spl1-1-x-2- ... ai-feo=off

http://www.staples.com/NETGEAR-GS605NA-5-Port-Gig ... ai-feo=off

Thanks for the replies gents.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 1:28 pm

Yes, use the second LAN port. Use a switch in the garage if you have multiple devices out there.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 1:30 pm

Check eBay and Amazon for a switch.


 
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Post by cabinover » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 1:56 pm

Thanks guys, think that sums it up pretty well.

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 2:22 pm

See here, you can't split one port on the router to operate two separate devices (computers). You must first combine two ports from the router into one line, then split it at the location of the two devices, as descibed in this video.

https://youtu.be/6yJFLElDPCA

 
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Post by cabinover » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 2:48 pm

So I can't use a second LAN out from my wireless router to the garage?

House router---------garage---splitter---2 computers. That won't work? I won't be using both computers in the garage at any one time.

I may not even ever use the one upstairs but there is a stereo up there as well. I just don't want to buy something that won't work for me today and in the future.

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 5:38 pm

cabinover wrote:The back of my router has 5 holes, marked WAN, LAN, LAN,LAN,LAN. The WAN comes from the modem and the 1st LAN goes to my computer. Does that mean I just plug into the 2nd LAN hole and run that to the garage?
cabinover wrote:So I can't use a second LAN out from my wireless router to the garage?

House router---------garage---splitter---2 computers. That won't work? I won't be using both computers in the garage at any one time.

I may not even ever use the one upstairs but there is a stereo up there as well. I just don't want to buy something that won't work for me today and in the future.
No, you are correct, that won't work. I think you misunderstood. According to this video,

https://youtu.be/6yJFLElDPCA

if you want to run TWO computers on ONE line you first combine two LAN ports at the router with a splitter/combiner, run the line to the garage, then use another splitter/combiner at the garage to run to each computer. You posted above that you have 4 LAN ports, one is using the computer in the house, right? Use two of the other 3 that are left on the router.

So it would go like this,
Router, use two LAN ports (with combiner/splitter) ----> one line that goes out to the garage ---->
--------> then splitter/combiner -----> two computers

the purpose of the two splitters is so you only have to run one 100 ft line instead of two 100 ft lines. I suppose if you will only use one computer at a time then you could by using just one splitter at the garage and one LAN port on the router, like you suggested.. If one computer is already connected, the other won't connect until you shut it off. Toggling between computers this way would be a shut off and turn on game between the two.

Otherwise, just run one wire from one LAN on the router, to run one computer in the garage.. :)

 
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Post by 2001Sierra » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 5:47 pm

I think you have had enough replies. To split a RJ45 feed you would use a mini hub. You will love that streaming music in the garage, I even spent the money and subscribed to spotify, I use everyday at work and every nite at home in the garage. For me to spend the 10 bucks a month it has to be good :oops:

 
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Post by cabinover » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 6:00 pm

OK, just looked up the difference between a mini hub and a switch. The pic I saw says they are the same thing. Quit trying to confuse me fer Christ's sake. :lol:

As for Spotify it requires an internet connection. That's part of what I'm trying to do. I sometimes use Pandora here. Also just found the other reason for Amazon Prime, some pretty good playlists on there as well.

Would love this at work but I can't get cell phone service let alone internet. Just ask Scottscoaled, he knows. :lol: :lol:

Sorry to bother you guys with this. I was always the go to guy for wiring stereo equipment and speakers to get them right for my relatives. Kind of lost the draw when computers came out. I still use my old system for tunes. There are no tower speakers here, no all-in-one surround sound stuff. You'll find a crap load of quality speakers, a couple old Bose amps and a preamp combo, a good CD player, a Dual turntable, and an Akai GX747DB reel to reel player. That's what's in my living room. The garage has a bunch of other goodies, way more than I should have.

Now I don't even know if I can use a new flat screen TV and HDMI cable with standard Comcast programming. My son says yes it will look fine. And I thought I'd never get old. :cry:

 
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Post by Richard S. » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 8:54 pm

85 feet for good router and adapter should be no problem. I can see my neighbors and those houses are 200 feet away at least.

You can use same connection of two computers through Windows where you connect second computer to first computer.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/using- ... =windows-7

 
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Post by Richard S. » Sun. Sep. 06, 2015 8:57 pm

cabinover wrote:
Now I don't even know if I can use a new flat screen TV and HDMI cable with standard Comcast programming.
Yes. :D


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