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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Sep. 28, 2015 5:15 pm

joeq wrote:I sent my request to Trevor at Tomahawk yesterday, and today I already got a reply. He said casting would be no problem, and the cost would be $100 W/O shipping. He also said he could ship and bill everyone on an individual basis. Will send PMs for more info.
Where there's a will,.... there's a way. Good job, Joe. ;)

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Post by joeq » Mon. Sep. 28, 2015 5:32 pm

Thanx Paul. For shipping my original, would you think clamping it in a wooden jig, inside a box would be overdoing it, or do you think lots of bubble pack around it in a cardboard box would suffice? These things look like egg shells to me.

 
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Post by joeq » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 5:33 pm

Tomahawk says about a 4 week lead time, so that means if I send this ring out this weekend, maybe all will have their castings before Thanksgiving. Can't wait to get them back.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 5:41 pm

joeq wrote:Thanx Paul. For shipping my original, would you think clamping it in a wooden jig, inside a box would be overdoing it, or do you think lots of bubble pack around it in a cardboard box would suffice? These things look like egg shells to me.
Joe,
What ever your comfortable with. Having worked for a major museum system, and now years sending out customer's irreplaceable parts, I tend to over pack, and not under insure, ...ALL shipped items !!!!!!!

Think of it as, what's it going to cost you to get back to where you are if it gets broken or lost in shipment? It's one of the few things were being too cautious pays off.

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Post by joeq » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 5:59 pm

I hear ya Paul. I 've got some 1/4" plywood, so I think I'm gunna make a "gas ring" sandwich. I'm taking a 2" thick square of heavy foam rubber, cut out the middle to fit the ring in, use some 2x sticks as a separator around the perimeter and in the middle, encased in a sheet of ply above and below, and secure the ring to the ply with tie-wraps. Then I'll put it in a cardboard box, with bubble pac. I'm wondering about doing a drop test off the roof of my house, to the drive-way, to see if the packing is sufficient. What do you think? :D

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 7:42 pm

joeq wrote:I hear ya Paul. I 've got some 1/4" plywood, so I think I'm gunna make a "gas ring" sandwich. I'm taking a 2" thick square of heavy foam rubber, cut out the middle to fit the ring in, use some 2x sticks as a separator around the perimeter and in the middle, encased in a sheet of ply above and below, and secure the ring to the ply with tie-wraps. Then I'll put it in a cardboard box, with bubble pac. I'm wondering about doing a drop test off the roof of my house, to the drive-way, to see if the packing is sufficient. What do you think? :D
If it doesn't work, does your homeowner's insurance cover it ? :D

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Post by joeq » Wed. Sep. 30, 2015 8:26 pm

Sunny Boy wrote: If it doesn't work, does your homeowner's insurance cover it ? :D
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:gee: Let's see. Gas ring, $100 bucks. Deductible...$500. Maybe I won't drop it, and take a shipping chance.


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Oct. 01, 2015 11:38 am

Don't forget that if something were to happen to a part in shipping, you don't want to underinsure it. Shipping insurance is relatively cheap, don't be cheaper !!!

I've been there and had to pay out of my pocket beyond what the insurance covered because I didn't want to pay more to cover everything involved in getting parts equal to what was lost/damaged.

Case in point. UPS lost a set of silk roll-up curtains we had made for a customer's car. I had only insured them for the cost of replacing the silk and the rollers -$700.00. But, I lost out on our many hours of labor, measuring, cutting, sewing, and installing the curtains on rollers and then packing them up and the cost of shipping them. Then I lost time spent on the phone trying to track them down, then having to spend more time finding replacement rollers and ordering more silk. That was many hungered of dollars that came out of my pocket. :oops:

Now, I look at what it would be for the total cost of finding/buying the parts, plus the materials and labor to get back to where I was before the part got lost, and/or, damaged in shipping.

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Post by joeq » Thu. Oct. 01, 2015 4:30 pm

Point taken Paul. Your story tho, reminds me of when we were kids, (4 of us), my parents always had station wagons, and I remember 2 of them, (a 2 tone green 58 Dodge, and a copper colored 60 Olds) that my mother had sewn curtains for the back and side windows. We used to go to drive-ins a lot, and if we were bored in the back, (with the back seat dropped down), we could pull the curtains to block out the light, and sleep. The copper wagon had dark brown curtains, with white "pom poms" hanging off them! :lol: (Wonder how that would go over today?....Wait a minute...where's the drive-ins? :( )

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Oct. 01, 2015 4:34 pm

joeq wrote:Point taken Paul. Your story tho, reminds me of when we were kids, (4 of us), my parents always had station wagons, and I remember 2 of them, (a 2 tone green 58 Dodge, and a copper colored 60 Olds) that my mother had sewn curtains for the back and side windows. We used to go to drive-ins a lot, and if we were bored in the back, (with the back seat dropped down), we could pull the curtains to block out the light, and sleep. The copper wagon had dark brown curtains, with white "pom poms" hanging off them! :lol: (Wonder how that would go over today?....Wait a minute...where's the drive-ins? :( )
People actually watched the movies at the drive-in ? I could never see through the fogged-up windows ! :D

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Post by scalabro » Thu. Oct. 01, 2015 4:43 pm

I do miss going to "see the movie" ..... sadly, cars today aren't built for the drive in toothy !

 
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Post by joeq » Sun. Oct. 04, 2015 1:33 pm

Another foot forward, accomplished today. I built a shipping container for the fire-ring, gas ring, or grate, (depending who you talk to). I don't think I went over-board, but think this package will protect it from "normal" shipping maladies. I'm posting these pictures to prove it "is" going in the mail this way. hopefully it will arrive unscathed.
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The ring is tightly (but not "too" tightly) sandwiched between cutouts on both sides of the white foam. And bubble pack is used in the bottom and top of the cardboard box, After shipping tomorrow, with a down payment check enclosed, the ball will be in Tomahawks court.

 
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Post by scalabro » Sun. Oct. 04, 2015 7:20 pm

Nice box!

 
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Post by Merc300d » Sun. Oct. 04, 2015 8:02 pm

Great job Joeq. Can hardly wait for the return trip. Thanks fir the making this project happen

 
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Post by joeq » Sun. Oct. 04, 2015 8:45 pm

scalabro wrote:Nice box!
LOL! (I'll have to keep this one "clean")
Thanx bro.
Merc300d wrote:Great job Joeq. Can hardly wait for the return trip. Thanks fir the making this project happen
Glad to help out my NEPA comrades.


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