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Stove is still humming along..definitely not needed. It's been close to 60 for the last few days and 40s at night..window and door stats are wide open during the day ..
Emptied the ashes for the 1st time today.. the Kimmel s coac I got from tractor supply has red ashes.. Is this usually better coal?
Emptied the ashes for the 1st time today.. the Kimmel s coac I got from tractor supply has red ashes.. Is this usually better coal?
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In my stoves, Kimmels coal tends to burn hotter so I would tend to use my Blacshack coal for longer / cooler burn times.ncountry wrote:Stove is still humming along..definitely not needed. It's been close to 60 for the last few days and 40s at night..window and door stats are wide open during the day ..
Emptied the ashes for the 1st time today.. the Kimmel s coac I got from tractor supply has red ashes.. Is this usually better coal?
Randy
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Agree^^^...think of sanding sheet rock/joint compound...even with doorways covered with plastic dust gets by, it gets every where!rberq wrote:Good luck with that. There are usually enough convection currents close to the hot stove that any transfer will send a cloud of fly ash up and around the room. Some people make a cover for the ash pan, so they can slide it out, cover, and carry outside for emptying. I would never even THINK of emptying an ash pan in the living area of the house -- even emptying it in the garage is a disaster and I do it outdoors unless it is blizzard conditions.
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I had a busy week and never got around to building an ash pan yet. Next week maybe..
I will know for sure tomorrow evening, but it looks like I am on track to have burned 110-120#s of coal in a 7 day period. Is this what I should expect for an Idling 50-93?
Another question have is.. At what stove temp should I start to run the blower?
Will it hurt the stove to run without it?
At what stove temp am I getting close to over-fireing it?
So far we are far from needing the extra heat the blower would push off the stove and after the pellet stove the silence is nice. The stove has been at an even 200* most of the week .
I know , I know .. an awful lot of newbie questions here.
I didn't know how much I didn't know until the gf started popping questions at me..lol
Thanks for any and all answers.
Mason
I will know for sure tomorrow evening, but it looks like I am on track to have burned 110-120#s of coal in a 7 day period. Is this what I should expect for an Idling 50-93?
Another question have is.. At what stove temp should I start to run the blower?
Will it hurt the stove to run without it?
At what stove temp am I getting close to over-fireing it?
So far we are far from needing the extra heat the blower would push off the stove and after the pellet stove the silence is nice. The stove has been at an even 200* most of the week .
I know , I know .. an awful lot of newbie questions here.
I didn't know how much I didn't know until the gf started popping questions at me..lol
Thanks for any and all answers.
Mason
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Yep, 10-20 lbs is right in the ball park. Ya tending once every 24 hrs? It's gotta be awful cold out for me to run my blower as in minus temps.
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Yes, you can run the 50-93 without the fan. Freetown Fred seldom turns his fan on. However, for maximum efficiency, as well as circulation, I found running the fan on low is all you need. No need to ever run the fan any more than low. If the room air is too hot, turn the back dial down. You can shut the fan off. Still to hot, let ashes build. Go to 24 hour tending times during shoulder months. I would say your coal consumption looks good for this time of year. As far as over firing, the stove would have to be HOT, VERY HOT. Over 650* - 700*, or higher. The hopper will warp at these temps, long before any stove damage. On average, you'll probably run the stove between 400* - 550* during the winter months. My 50-93 was in my 1700 square foot, un-insulated basement. I was heating another 1700 square foot of living space. I've warped my hopper while purposely pushing the stove to see what it would do.
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Trying to tend every 24 hrs. I cannot help myself sometimes and shake it down in the am too..freetown fred wrote:Yep, 10-20 lbs is right in the ball park. Ya tending once every 24 hrs? It's gotta be awful cold out for me to run my blower as in minus temps.
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Red ash coal tends to clinker at higher burn rates. What that means is the ash fuses into chunks. After a while these chunks will take up space in the fuel bed and eventually need to be removed.ncountry wrote:Stove is still humming along..definitely not needed. It's been close to 60 for the last few days and 40s at night..window and door stats are wide open during the day ..
Emptied the ashes for the 1st time today.. the Kimmel s coac I got from tractor supply has red ashes.. Is this usually better coal?
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Thanks for the info. Kind of what I had in mind. I have had wood heat for 43.5 years of my 44 year life so far... so have a lot of experience with a wood stove, 0 with a hand fed coal stove. So far I find it amazing how easy it is to control the fire .oliver power wrote:Yes, you can run the 50-93 without the fan. Freetown Fred seldom turns his fan on. However, for maximum efficiency, as well as circulation, I found running the fan on low is all you need. No need to ever run the fan any more than low. If the room air is too hot, turn the back dial down. You can shut the fan off. Still to hot, let ashes build. Go to 24 hour tending times during shoulder months. I would say your coal consumption looks good for this time of year. As far as over firing, the stove would have to be HOT, VERY HOT. Over 650* - 700*, or higher. The hopper will warp at these temps, long before any stove damage. On average, you'll probably run the stove between 400* - 550* during the winter months. My 50-93 was in my 1700 square foot, un-insulated basement. I was heating another 1700 square foot of living space. I've warped my hopper while purposely pushing the stove to see what it would do.
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You & me both NC.
ncountry wrote:Trying to tend every 24 hrs. I cannot help myself sometimes and shake it down in the am too..freetown fred wrote:Yep, 10-20 lbs is right in the ball park. Ya tending once every 24 hrs? It's gotta be awful cold out for me to run my blower as in minus temps.
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ncountry wrote:The ease, as well as performance, are what makes the 50-93 shine. With the 50-93, a little poking from the top if needed, shake the grates, and top her off. Many other stoves are not that simple. Another little tip: Should your fire be low, rake hot coals forward, creating a hole below the hopper. Then fill the hopper. The fresh coal will fill the hole you just created. The coals you pulled forward will quickly ignite the fresh coal.oliver power wrote:Yes, you can run the 50-93 without the fan. Freetown Fred seldom turns his fan on. However, for maximum efficiency, as well as circulation, I found running the fan on low is all you need. No need to ever run the fan any more than low. If the room air is too hot, turn the back dial down. You can shut the fan off. Still to hot, let ashes build. Go to 24 hour tending times during shoulder months. I would say your coal consumption looks good for this time of year. As far as over firing, the stove would have to be HOT, VERY HOT. Over 650* - 700*, or higher. The hopper will warp at these temps, long before any stove damage. On average, you'll probably run the stove between 400* - 550* during the winter months. My 50-93 was in my 1700 square foot, un-insulated basement. I was heating another 1700 square foot of living space. I've warped my hopper while purposely pushing the stove to see what it would do.
Thanks for the info. Kind of what I had in mind. I have had wood heat for 43.5 years of my 44 year life so far... so have a lot of experience with a wood stove, 0 with a hand fed coal stove. So far I find it amazing how easy it is to control the fire .
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Very nice. Hitzer was my second choice to my Alaska Kodiak 6 years ago. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised or maybe disappointed how little tending/maintenance your Hitzer requires. I have a hopper fed stove, I fill it with 1 and 1/2 hods per day on the worst days and empty the ash pan once per day. It is not fussy and idles around 100 degrees in 60 degree weather with no problem.
Another wonderful feature is no electric needed.
I too have a cheap magnetic thermometer stuck on the flue above the exit. I put a red paint mark at 100 degrees and my roommate and I know not to let it go below that. It's that simple.
That window will hypnotize you at times.
Another wonderful feature is no electric needed.
I too have a cheap magnetic thermometer stuck on the flue above the exit. I put a red paint mark at 100 degrees and my roommate and I know not to let it go below that. It's that simple.
That window will hypnotize you at times.
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Stove has been running great eeven on some of the 60 degree weather we have had... Now that I am vacation and the gf is home alone with the stove it is acting up..
She cannot seam to keep a fire... Before I left I checked chimney and cleaned any flyash out... Sounds like it is not drafting well.. What else should she be checking?
Thanks
She cannot seam to keep a fire... Before I left I checked chimney and cleaned any flyash out... Sounds like it is not drafting well.. What else should she be checking?
Thanks
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Orrrrr, if she shakes it TO vigorously, she'll dump the fire-box--