My Glenwood Base Heater Vs Alaska Channing 3 Stoker

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 6:13 am

top of the barrel


 
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Post by Pacowy » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 11:15 am

Canaan coal man wrote: still less than the Channing at 35 lbs a day in mild weather.
I never measured mine at idle but that seems high. What # were you on?

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Post by Canaan coal man » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 12:21 pm

Pacowy wrote:
Canaan coal man wrote: still less than the Channing at 35 lbs a day in mild weather.
I never measured mine at idle but that seems high. What # were you on?

Mike
If I remember correctly (this was many beers ago) It was a range from 1 during the day to 2 at night. Bad weather I ran the stove minim 2, but normally it was set at 2.5 to 3.
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Post by Canaan coal man » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 12:35 pm

well we survived last night (low of 6*) I had really nasty wind at the house. I was estimating my stove settings for the night burn. I wanted to run the stove between 600-650* but I also had primary and damper elbow open half way so the wind didn't suck the heat out of the chimney. I awoke at 3 am to check things stove was lower at 525* and the house was at 69*. well I guess I had to much secondary air. Sadly I must confess that I kicked on my ancient 1954 oil boiler and ran some warm water thru the pipes just in case. Oil is cheaper than new pipes down stairs. :D

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 1:15 pm

I thought you got a Chubby to use in the basement ?

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 2:37 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:I thought you got a Chubby to use in the basement ?
Not hooked up yet , im such a procrastinator with it being 70* on Christmas eve but now that winter is here im going to fig this out this weekend. My old boiler runs 9" pipe into the chimney I was going to remove the barometric damper from the T and pipe the chubby in to it. But I believe the best way is to have to separate stove pipes, one for my boiler and one set for the chubby. Kinda a pita but I only have 1 flue chimney. Then there is the can of worms debate running 2 heating devices on one flue. I might start a thread to get peoples opinion on my chubby hook up.

 
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Post by tcalo » Tue. Jan. 05, 2016 5:06 pm

CCM, I have a Chubby that I recently disconnected. I love the stove and don't want to get rid of it. I plannd on hooking it up in my basement as well. I only have one chimny that my oil burner is currently hooked into, so I'll just have to hook both units up together. I understand it's illegal in most situations, but it's also perfectly safe if installed properly. I've done tons of research about this issue on this site and many have done it successfully. There isn't much room in my set up. The flue comes straight out the top of the boiler then 90's into the chimney. There's a short run of pipe between the 90 and chimney but there is a baro installed there. I have to figure something out quick or I won't have any clean clothes. My wife said it's too cold to go in the basement and do laundry... :lol:


 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 6:00 am

Then there is the can of worms debate running 2 heating devices on one flue. I might start a thread to get peoples opinion on my chubby hook up.
Some people will never do it because it is against code. Others realize that if they aren't burning wood in the stove, there is no risk of chimney fire...which is the whole reason the code is written that way to begin with. It is up to you.

Once the coal stove is running in the basement you can string a clothes line down there and save on drying costs. :)

 
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Post by Pacowy » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 9:02 am

Rob R. wrote:Some people will never do it because it is against code.
I'm not a code expert but my understanding is that one of the underlying aims is to prevent different fuels from being vented into the same flue, and that under some circumstances it is permissible to have multiple appliances share the same flue as long as they are burning the same fuel. Nobody should take my word on that and probably it's fodder for another thread.

In tcalo's case, would powerventing the oil burner be an option?

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Post by Canaan coal man » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 9:35 am

Ok we can all agree last few days were cold I ran the stove flat out between 550- and 650* some time I would push 700* for a bit while I got the hang of all the draft settings. to keep the winter out of the house. I was using some bagged nut I bought from a buddy. it comes in 50 lbs sacks. Im very pleased to share that this stove only burned 50lbs a day with th oat temps and barrel temps were they were. Im shaking, busting bridging, and reloading every 12 hrs. removing ash every 24hr. very pleased with these results. '

In comparison when I would run the channing flat out I would only get temps of 450-500* before pushing hot coals of the stoker bed. this is with the convection fan on. I would have to empty ash every 12 hours and the stove would be eating at least 70 lbs a day if not more.
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Post by wsherrick » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 12:10 pm

Canaan coal man wrote:Ok we can all agree last few days were cold I ran the stove flat out between 550- and 650* some time I would push 700* for a bit while I got the hang of all the draft settings. to keep the winter out of the house. I was using some bagged nut I bought from a buddy. it comes in 50 lbs sacks. Im very pleased to share that this stove only burned 50lbs a day with th oat temps and barrel temps were they were. Im shaking, busting bringing, and reloading every 12 hrs. removing ash every 24hr. very pleased with these results. '

In comparison when I would run the channing flat out I would only get temps of 450-500* before pushing hot coals of the stoker bed. this is with the convection fan on. I would have to empty ash every 12 hours and the stove would be eating at least 70 lbs a day if not more.
Oh my. What a surprise! :D Welcome to coal stove easy street. We are happy to have you.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 2:56 pm

Nice savings.

Thinking about where all that previous coal energy/money used to be going could almost make a grown man cry ! ;)

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Post by Pacowy » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 3:13 pm

I'm glad you're happy. I don't see how the temp comparisons can be interpreted, since the Alaska scrubs heat off with the blower. And we only have a limited opportunity to go back and dissect the way the Alaska was used. On mine, the sweet spot for hard running was right around 50 or so lb/day, where it would throw tons of heat and I never fully filled an ash pan in a day. Mine didn't run efficiently at the very high end of the dial, but it idled way lower than 35 lb/day. From the Alaska performance you describe, I can see how you like this better, but I would question whether it's representative of the performance others get from their Channing III's.

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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 3:16 pm

Impressive results.

Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread. What is the minimum amount of coal it takes to keep a stable fire in the Glenwood?

 
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Post by Canaan coal man » Wed. Jan. 06, 2016 3:35 pm

Pacowy wrote:I'm glad you're happy. I don't see how the temp comparisons can be interpreted, since the Alaska scrubs heat off with the blower. And we only have a limited opportunity to go back and dissect the way the Alaska was used. On mine, the sweet spot for hard running was right around 50 or so lb/day, where it would throw tons of heat and I never fully filled an ash pan in a day. Mine didn't run efficiently at the very high end of the dial, but it idled way lower than 35 lb/day. From the Alaska performance you describe, I can see how you like this better, but I would question whether it's representative of the performance others get from their Channing III's.

Mike
I Might have been a miss stating, 35lbs a day with the channing is a 7 day average in 35-55* weather I can idle the channing to a 10 lb usage but I can also sit on the stove butt naked. again I can idle the G6 not as low maybe 15lbs a day but a 7 day average showed a 28.5lb dayly consumption in comparable mild weather.

and yes with out the fan the stove would climb to 700* no problem but the back of the house would have been cooler than with the fan.

With the G6 and the way my house is laid out I don't need any fans and the back of the house feels the same if not a little better heat wise.


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