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Post by warminmn » Thu. Oct. 08, 2015 2:36 pm

Yes, Its been a couple years since I installed mine and I had a brain fart about its location, LOL

Look on ebay with the search term Vintage Steam Gauge, and you may get lucky. I've sold some high pressure ones from old steam engine boilers and they are quite attractive, and come in about any size you want. Ignore most the buy it now ones and check the auctions.

 
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Post by joeq » Thu. Oct. 08, 2015 5:49 pm

I did just check Ebay for one of those gauges warmin. but how does steam pressure relate to flow? Are you saying purchase it for the looks? (Some do look really nice) If I were to hook up my Dwyers, and get some draft readings, and compare what the steam gauge readings are, would that work? would a pressure gauge read the same? I guess it's no different than my vacuum gauge which also reads fuel pressure.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Oct. 08, 2015 7:12 pm

I'm thinking he means gut the insides of a steam gauge and install the magnehelic gauge inside it ?????

All the steam gauges I've seen read in PSI and just 1 psi of pressure is way off the manometer scales.

Even engine vacuum gauges are not sensitive enough to show the lower pressure inside a chimney. But if it does, ....RUN ! :shock:

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Post by joeq » Thu. Oct. 08, 2015 7:23 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:I'm thinking he means gut the insides of a steam gauge and install the magnehelic gauge inside it ?????

All the steam gauges I've seen read in PSI and just 1 psi of pressure is way off the manometer scales.
Even engine vacuum gauges are not sensitive enough to show the lower pressure inside a chimney. But if it does, ....RUN ! :shock:
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I think you're right Paul. I wonder how adaptable the inerds would be from 1 gauge to the next. Probably just a matter of dimensions I guess.

 
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Post by warminmn » Thu. Oct. 08, 2015 7:43 pm

Yes, thats what I meant. :) Some of them are just screwed together, kind of like two halves. The front/face half is often brass, with the back's usually steel. I would think one of the fancy round new models members talk about could be fit into one. Of course Im always putting things together that arent normally made for each other :lol:

It is possible there could actually be an actual antique mano type around. There were so many configurations used for so many different things. People usually use the term steam gauge on ebay, or steam punk gauge, or boiler gauge, as they really don't know what they have anyway. Anything could show up with those searches.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Oct. 08, 2015 7:48 pm

Find a steam gauge housing that is close in size to the magnehelic and depending on how the gauge innards are attached to the housing you might be able to swap. Then just figure out how to attach the magnehelic guts inside the steam gauge housing - either with fasteners, or a dab of epoxy ????

It'd be really cool if it said "Unterseeboot" on the gauge. :shock:

Don't forget to pick up some Basso ! :D

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Post by joeq » Fri. Oct. 09, 2015 4:26 pm

So here is my pipe extension with a new MPD installed. Just squeaks in. I think I can fit an elbow here to hook up my manometer tube. I don't believe there'll be any turbulence here seeing it's in front of the operating damper. And when the damper is wide open, the valve has clearance of maybe an inch or 2. I could mount it at 12 or 6 o'clock, (for more clearance), but then I would have to look at the adapter and tubing, which I prefer not to, if I have the option. The green circled area faces the living room, and I was planning on mounting it on the other side, where it won't be seen. Once again, not a big deal, but if I can prevent it during the install ,I'ld rather.
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(And Paul, you'll have to "enlighten" me on that "unterseeboot" comment :?:)

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Oct. 09, 2015 4:39 pm

Joe,

If you can, put the gauge tube there install it so that the end of the tube extends into the center area of the pipe. That's where the flue gas flow will be the most consistent with those bends and dampers so close.

Unterseeboot is the German name for their submarines (Under Sea Boat). The pressure gauges off them were very collectable at one time. But, too big for your application.

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Post by scalabro » Fri. Oct. 09, 2015 4:47 pm

Looks good to me as well. However, since I can't stand looking at a modern day contraption like a permanently affixed manometer, on my antique, I opted for a hand held "Bacharach" draft gauge.

Either way that position should work well.

I also think your chimney will draft well with the additional length.

When is the tentative light off? :D

 
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Post by joeq » Fri. Oct. 09, 2015 6:01 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:Joe,
If you can, put the gauge tube there install it so that the end of the tube extends into the center area of the pipe. That's where the flue gas flow will be the most consistent with those bends and dampers so close.
Unterseeboot is the German name for their submarines (Under Sea Boat). The pressure gauges off them were very collectable at one time. But, too big for your application.
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Thanx Mr. Paul. That was actually gunna be my next question. Scary to think you can even read minds. (And believe me, mine's pretty difficult to find. :lol: )
scalabro wrote:Looks good to me as well. However, since I can't stand looking at a modern day contraption like a permanently affixed manometer, on my antique, I opted for a hand held "Bacharach" draft gauge.
Either way that position should work well.
I also think your chimney will draft well with the additional length.
When is the tentative light off? :D
You're asking "me", when she'll be lit? I haven't got a clue Scott. I'm just putzing when-ever I get a chance. I had to flash my brick chimney today, (before the rain), and tomorrow, I have to travel to Taunton to catch up on some "obligatory" family gathering.
But Sun. and Mon. I hope to do some final blasting of the stove parts, then clean and paint it. Then comes the decision, do I assemble it W/O bricks, and put it together 1st, then finish my brick molds? Won't know till I get to that point.
And I noticed today, my maple trees are changing, and soon the "battle of the leaves" will begin.
What about your Crawford Scott? Been burning the midnight rock, or what?

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