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PostBy: Chris On: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:53 pm

Chris...now thats a nice setup...looks like a parade of homes living room!!! Great tiling on the wood floors! How's it working out for you? Coal vs pellet?


Thanks. I've been wanting to switch to coal for years and this year my pellet stove had a auger bearing seize. Good enough reason for me to make the switch to coal.

The coal is way easier to start (using a coal mouse) than pellets. It's more quiet and less involved to keep running than pellets but the best thing so far - it will run 3 days before I need to fill the hopper and empty the ash pan. Pellets were everyday and made way more of a mess.

When anyone asks me the comparison the answer is always "there isn't one".
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PostBy: madrmc On: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:03 pm

TD is that the cast iron top? Is it just supposed to prevent some heat from radiating out compared to standard top?

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PostBy: TD On: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:19 pm

Yes, thats the cast iron top. Air from the blower is pushed between the top steel plate of the stove bodyand the cast top. Thanks for the info about the damper.
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Van Wert Economy Anthratherm Stoker

PostBy: TechCurmudgeon On: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:46 am

Here is a shot of my Van Wert Economy Anthratherm. The wall is only about five feet behind the burner so I had to angle it quite a bit to fit it into frame. Never noticed it before, but maybe it's time to repaint the cover!

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Gonna reminisce a bit ... back around 1965 my folks bought the house I grew up and still live in, and it had an old hand-stoker that burned chestnut coal. There were pros and cons - I learned a bit about smithing by trial and error (pro - it was great for heating up chunks of steel), but mostly cons (the grate would snap in half every couple of years, and eventually could no longer be welded).

Balanced between a pro and con was that it had a large enough firebox so we could feed wood into it. My folks were scrimping and saving, and, after the grate blew out that last time, and for a year or two afterward we burned everything from broken-up pallets to logs we split up from the woods out back.

Some time around 1976 Dad (a carpenter by trade, but at loose ends at the time) arranged to raze a local residence. It was a family outing ... Mom, Dad, and all us kids swarmed over it for a couple of weeks to salvage the wood - great big beams, and the original log walls; it had started out as a log cabin - that he then sold to an individual building a log cabin.

The jewel in the crown was this Van Wert stoker, but it was a year or so later until we had enough money to get it installed, and it has been providing space heating and hot water ever since. Except for that intermission (and however long it had been out of service at the original owner's) this stoker has been running since the mid to late '50's ... Dad worked a couple of years for a local plumbing contractor, and recalled installing this very same stoker around the time of the 1955 flood.

It uses a Honeywell L8124A1007 'AquaStat' controller for main zone control in conjunction with an ancient water pump feeding five radiators placed throughout the 1800 square foot, two story house. Only one radiator is upstairs, but we found it (coupled with warm air rising up the stairway, and one small air louver into the middle bedroom) is enough to maintain a reasonable degree of comfort. A second thermostat/pump controller feeds water into another loop for the back room.

A five foot long x 2-1/2" auger feeds buck coal from a 55 gallon drum into the burner, and it uses an 8" exhaust duct into the original brick chimney.

I'd have to dig through the last couple of years worth of receipts to develop a baseline, but an off-the-hip estimate is it burns about 5 to 6 tons per year depending on how severe the winter turns out to be.

Hard to beat from a cost standpoint :)
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PostBy: kirk On: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:07 pm

My Harman VF3000 - Not very impressive looking but does a great job. Third year with it and I've really got it dialed in this season. Does all my heat and hot water. I wish it had a glass door so I could enjoy watching the blue flames.
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PostBy: wenchris On: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:45 pm

Kirk,
Very nice setup, how many tons a year do you use. Are you running it year round? What did the Harman cost just for the unit? THanx Jimmy
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PostBy: Oo-v-oO On: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:47 pm

Here's what the inside of mine looks like right now. 8)

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PostBy: kirk On: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:47 am

Jimmy - I only burn it in winter. This year I started in early November. It looks like I'm going to burn about 3 1/2 tons this season. Previous years, I burned that much and didn't even fire it up until late December. But with oil being as high as it was, I started burning as soon as I needed heat. I lowered the feed rate and lowered the water temperature this year to about 145. I bought in February of 2003 and paid $3,500.00. It's 14 degrees here thisd morning and the house is an even 70 on all levels. Thats the nice thing about a boiler, even temps throughout the house.
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PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:10 pm

OO-v-OO, what size coal are you burning?? That looks like much larger than nut, is it stove or egg size??

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PostBy: Oo-v-oO On: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:50 pm

That's actually a bed of Stove with some Nut on top of it. I'm experimenting to see what works best.

I think the Nut will work as well as Stove in my Ashley and it's easier to shovel in. The supplier I got this from doesn't have any more Stove, anyway, and he says that he has to buy it by the tractor-trailer load, so he doesn't know if he's going to get any more this year or not.

I'm beginning to get the hang of burning coal - it needs a LOT more air than wood and works best if you don't muck about with it once it's going. :-)
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PostBy: short On: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:30 pm

Here is a picture of our stove.
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PostBy: Yanche On: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:14 am

Picture of my Alternate Heating Systems S-130 installation. In use two heating seasons. Works well. Pipe in series with my existing oil boiler. Burn 5 tons pea PA anthracite a winter.

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PostBy: Clinker On: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:15 am

Yanche wrote:Picture of my Alternate Heating Systems S-130 installation. In use two heating seasons. Works well. Pipe in series with my existing oil boiler. Burn 5 tons pea PA anthracite a winter.

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Hey Yanche...I really like that set-up. Did you use mostly coal this year? what percentage coal/oil ?

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PostBy: coalburner On: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:22 pm

Clinker wrote:
Yanche wrote:Picture of my Alternate Heating Systems S-130 installation. In use two heating seasons. Works well. Pipe in series with my existing oil boiler. Burn 5 tons pea PA anthracite a winter.

Yanche


Hey Yanche...I really like that set-up. Did you use mostly coal this year? what percentage coal/oil ?

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How much was the s-130? did you install it?
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PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:01 am

I switched to coal on Oct. 25 when the weather stared to get consistently cold here in central Maryland. I've be using coal exclusively except for a 6 day period when I was out of town. Then I switched to oil and set the house thermostat to 60 degrees. I log the weight of each coal bucket I put in the hopper. My thermostat is normally 72 during the day and 70 at night. I burn 50 to 125 lbs in 24 hours. 50 lbs when the day time temperature is 40-50 with the night time lows close to freezing. 125 lbs when the night time low was 6 and day time high was 22 and windy. The resulting ash from the 125 lbs coal was 23 lbs 11 oz, i.e. 18.8% by weight. My annual coal usage is right on target to be slightly less that 5 tons. I also heat my domestic hot water and a 1000 sq ft workshop with the boiler. I did the design and installation myself. In non-heating months I use the oil boiler for domestic hot water only.

The photo shows the boilers in my shop which is in a separate building from my home. A 30-35 ft underground pipe run gets the hot water to my home. The max water temperature is about 210. The boiler has no problem maintainimg at least 180 under all conditions. It's an efficient boiler design, I can put my hand on the flue pipe without getting burned. Don't recommend doing it because it's hot but you don't get burnt either. :-) I'm saving big time vs oil. The electric rates are scheduled to go up 72% this summer. I suspect a lot more homeowners will be looking to alternate heating sources, especially those with heat pumps or electric radiant heat.

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