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Post by joeq » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 9:41 am

Now I'm just more confused, but that's a given. :D


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 10:06 am

Sorry if my last line added to the confusion, Joe. I meant to say, .."with, or without a baro.

A simple test is seal off the baro for length of time,... say a week, and see what changes there are in stove performance, house warmth, and amounts of coal used for a similar weather week.

Other than that, you'd need some very sophisticated test lab to see if a baro wastes less heat in windy conditions than having no baro.

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Post by Lightning » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 10:54 am

Paul, even with the simple test you suggested, I believe there are just too many variables to conclusively prove baro vs no baro. You make a very good point though about heated room air energy compared to heated flue gas energy getting yanked from the stove during wind gusts. A question of which one is worse.

There is a way to plumb the baro so that it uses the less expensive cooler air near the floor. You would need to use a horizontal section of pipe currently in your setup. Use a "T" to run towards the floor, then a "90" at the floor to install the baro properly. But I don't think the advantages of such a rigging would really show much difference.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 12:14 pm

Lightning wrote:Paul, even with the simple test you suggested, I believe there are just too many variables to conclusively prove baro vs no baro. You make a very good point though about heated room air energy compared to heated flue gas energy getting yanked from the stove during wind gusts. A question of which one is worse.

There is a way to plumb the baro so that it uses the less expensive cooler air near the floor. You would need to use a horizontal section of pipe currently in your setup. Use a "T" to run towards the floor, then a "90" at the floor to install the baro properly. But I don't think the advantages of such a rigging would really show much difference.
Lee,

For decades, baros have been recommended for use with so many modern heating appliances that have been lab tested, that I'd go with baro wastes less heat produced by the stove than not having a baro. I don't see any logic, or evidence, that heating appliance manufactures would, for so long a time, recommend a device that would waste heat. ;)

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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 12:22 pm

It's just all in people's heads.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 12:29 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:It's just all in people's heads.
:shock:

Now there's another topic. If someone has a hole in their head, would it help to have a baro installed, or not ? :D

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Post by Lightning » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 1:20 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:Now there's another topic. If someone has a hole in their head, would it help to have a baro installed, or not ?
It would depend on how much their a** is sucking wind... :lol:


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 1:38 pm

Lightning wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:Now there's another topic. If someone has a hole in their head, would it help to have a baro installed, or not ?
It would depend on how much their a** is sucking wind... :lol:
:D

Good answer !

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Post by joeq » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 3:43 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:It's just all in people's heads.
Yeah. Like the grassy knoll, and Apollo 11. :D

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 3:52 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:It's just all in people's heads.
Takes a lot of nerve to accuse people of having something in their heads :eek2: ;)

Now I'm gonna go practice drawing so I can draw as good as Lee :clap: :out:

 
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Post by joeq » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 4:04 pm

Hey now Don, are you bustin on Lee? :D I think he did a great job. It makes perfect sense to me.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 4:16 pm

joeq wrote:Hey now Don, are you bustin on Lee? :D I think he did a great job. It makes perfect sense to me.
Just ribbing a little. But you'll notice I was running just in case they threw black rocks at me :) :)

 
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Post by Lightning » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 4:25 pm

SWPaDon wrote:Just ribbing a little.
NO, I'm good for it lol. Just a quick sketch to get the point across... :P

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 6:03 pm

joeq wrote:Hey now Don, are you bustin on Lee? :D I think he did a great job. It makes perfect sense to me.
:shock: Joe, you realize that puts you in a "special" class. :roll:

:D

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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Nov. 27, 2015 6:07 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
joeq wrote:Hey now Don, are you bustin on Lee? I think he did a great job. It makes perfect sense to me.
:shock: Joe, you realize that puts you in a "special" class. :roll:

:D

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