Some Years Trying to Saey 92 Stove

 
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Post by paulus » Sat. Oct. 17, 2015 2:37 pm

hello everyone, I have found this forum and I hope I'm welcome, I use the google translate because my English is very bad, because I live in belgium,

I now use two year coal stove, and I am very satisfied, it is a Saey92, but I have some questions where I am not sure if this is normal.

I use clean anthracite from ibbenbure. (Germany) 20/30 which is our size.

My first question is, is it normal that the shafts fast flying left and right of the stove sometimes against the window? This mainly happens when I fly ash door open shafts upwards through the coal. I hope you realize this :)

My second question is whether it is normal that the flue is not very hot to burn coal with wood but much hotter, it falls to me to be on.

this is quite difficult in this way if you can write bad English :)

The fifth picture you see my problem with it as this is soon after cleaning the stove I make him clean every Sunday

Greetz Paul.

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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Oct. 17, 2015 2:45 pm

Great to hear from you Paul. There are people that are familiar with your stove that I'm sure will post. Welcome my friend.
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Post by franco b » Sat. Oct. 17, 2015 3:13 pm

Hi Paul and welcome,

I think you mean exploding coal when first loaded. That will depend on how much water is in the coal. That will happen much less if the coal is loaded from the hopper because it will be hot then.

Yes it is normal for the pipe temperature to be less with coal. It is because coal has very little gas to burn and wood has a lot that is released all at once and drives up the temperature.

Hope this translates to make sense to you.

 
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Post by paulus » Sat. Oct. 17, 2015 4:25 pm

thank you very much for the comments,

I think I have not explained well, I mean, when I open my ashtray hard blows air through the coals and ashes comes up ... anywhere shaft see photo 5
I hope it is well translate

P.s. the question of the pipe is clear thanx

 
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Post by joeq » Sat. Oct. 17, 2015 5:57 pm

Hi Paulus and welcome to the neighborhood. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Maybe we're not thinking about the same component when you say the word "SHAFT". If you're complaining about ash blowing in your face, when you open the door, maybe you can close your dampers, before you open her up.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Oct. 17, 2015 7:13 pm

Make sure your MPD is OPEN in the exit pipe if you have one before opening ash door. Also, you're letting way to much ash in the pan between emptying. Try emptying more often.

 
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Post by paulus » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 2:57 am

Haha no not in my face but throughout the combustion chamber it flies up when I open the ashdoor (I hope you understand )

I do not have a valve in the pipe but thermostatic valve in the stove that I'm going once I try that, thanx all.

one last question for today:) I think it is a difficult question for me to you,

with my stove, I can shake well stabbing, but to stabbing the ash door should open, what should I do, stabbing or shake? and when?

because in the morning I have to wake the coal ,,,,

Thanks everyone, I am so glad that this forum exists

Paul


 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 7:08 am

the fly ash coming up from the bottom when you shake is ok, but try this, make sure ash door is shut, make shut air control is shut, (bi-metallic) and open over fire air a little. and also make sure hopper is always full, do not let it get low. you should shake everytime you have to add coal, and you should dump your ash pan after every shake. always top off hopper before shaking, then after shaking. there is no need to clean that ash every sunday, unless it bothers you. we have three stoves just like yours in the family, they run great.

 
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Post by paulus » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 9:42 am

ok I'm going to try today, but the stabbing does so never actually because behind the ash door, I have slots for stabbing.

So before I go to work hopper fill then shake again refill and make ashtray and empty when I come home after work again.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 9:46 am

you should be able to go every 12 hours till you get the hang of it, depending on outside temps.

 
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Post by franco b » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 9:55 am

If the slots are behind the ash door, than opening the top door will lesson the pull up through the coal bed when you stab the grate. The right way is to stab first and then shake.

 
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Post by just peter » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 10:04 am

Welcome on board Paulus.
Peter.

 
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Post by paulus » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 10:20 am

wow that is difficult in my translate, so if I understand I need to open the top cover and then stabbing?

Because when I do the ashdoor open and stabbing then I quickly bonfire see the pictured, is that normal? The frightening me sometimes 8-)

sorry I'm a beginner

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Post by paulus » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 10:20 am

Hello Peter thanx :D

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Sun. Oct. 18, 2015 1:31 pm

I think he means open the door with the glass, not the top hopper lid, that is some volital stuff, I think it has some bituminous characteristics to it.


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