Harman TLC 2000, Burning Wood

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Tue May 27, 2008 10:30 am

I burn pea and nut. This past year I bought 2 tons of pea and one ton of nut. I start with the pea,switch to nut,and finish with pea. I have seventeen bags of pea left for the start of next season. Pea likes more air than nut but they both burn great.
Just be careful when you use pea, you can go to far when shaking and dump your fire.
EasyRay
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue May 27, 2008 10:43 am

EasyRay wrote:ust be careful when you use pea, you can go to far when shaking and dump your fire.


Something to be careful of with all Harman shaker mechanisms. ( Hmmmm.....I wonder if I could devise a mechanical "stop" that would prevent the shaker grates from opening to far during normal shaking down, but then be removed when you actually want to allow full travel to dump your fire when cleaning out?)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Tue May 27, 2008 9:14 pm

I also added two fire bricks on each side to get the sides more verticle. I also cut two pieces to fit in the front corners. Now the front bars can't slide out unless I remove the corner bricks or lift and slide the two brackets in and remove all the bars at once. I also added a set of bricks around the top running horizontal.

I'll see how this works out next season.
EasyRay
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

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Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Thu May 29, 2008 5:20 am

Thansk for the help Greg,
We have purchased the TLC 2000 but haven't delivered yet. We originally opted to have the new fabricated chimney installed by the dealer too BUT, I found a local guy that will save me 500 on the install. I hope that won't p-off my dealer. The dealer was going to deliver and set up the stove. Put together and after chimney was installed ,start a fire etc. Probably won't set it up now though. Our stove cost was 1699,plus 325 for gold door plus 55 for gold accents and 55 for grill option[probably won't use] plus the harman blower for 105.00. Now we need to buy the chimney parts which seem expensive . The dealer has the metalbestos ,but I am checking into Excel etc. Looks like the nearest delivery for coal is Champlain in White Hall and coal goes for 285 a ton right now . Free delivery for the first 20 miles and 2.00 a mile after that.
Jack
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu May 29, 2008 7:01 am

Jack Magnum wrote:Thansk for the help Greg,
We have purchased the TLC 2000 but haven't delivered yet. We originally opted to have the new fabricated chimney installed by the dealer too BUT, I found a local guy that will save me 500 on the install. I hope that won't p-off my dealer. The dealer was going to deliver and set up the stove. Put together and after chimney was installed ,start a fire etc. Probably won't set it up now though. Our stove cost was 1699,plus 325 for gold door plus 55 for gold accents and 55 for grill option[probably won't use] plus the harman blower for 105.00. Now we need to buy the chimney parts which seem expensive . The dealer has the metalbestos ,but I am checking into Excel etc. Looks like the nearest delivery for coal is Champlain in White Hall and coal goes for 285 a ton right now . Free delivery for the first 20 miles and 2.00 a mile after that.
Jack


Congrats Jack....You won't be sorry with the Harman! One suggestion: I was thinking of a metal chimney too but found out that I could have a masonry (block) chimney built for just about the same price. I'd go masonry for peace of mind......It'll never rot or need replacement. (mine has been up for over 25 years & is still clean as a whistle inside!)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Thu May 29, 2008 9:13 am

I agree with Devil. I built my own block and clay pipe chimney back in the 70's and if you look inside you would think it was never used.
Try to find a local mason who could use some extra work. It will never have to be replaced in your lifetime or the next owners lifetime or longer.

Just my two cents :)
EasyRay
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Thu May 29, 2008 1:52 pm

My other masonary chimney had a ss insert for our wood burning insert. Do you guys have a insert in yours ?The masonary chimney would have to be 23 or 24 ft high. Don't think it would cost less than a metal one.I'll check though. Thanks
jack
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu May 29, 2008 2:41 pm

Jack Magnum wrote:My other masonary chimney had a ss insert for our wood burning insert. Do you guys have a insert in yours ?The masonary chimney would have to be 23 or 24 ft high. Don't think it would cost less than a metal one.I'll check though. Thanks
jack




No insert on mine
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Thu May 29, 2008 8:20 pm

No insert in mine either.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Thu May 29, 2008 9:39 pm

I just got off the phone with a mason and he says for me to check out pricing on 16x16 chimney block and clay flue sections etc. I will need 30 blocks high. plus sakcrete and mortar and he will let me know tomorrow how much he needs to get labor. He says the inside will be an 8'' flue. I told him the stove was 6'' and he says the extra draft can be cut back by the stove if need be. What size is your masonary flues ?
Jack
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Fri May 30, 2008 8:04 am

Most flues are 8x8. You may need a barometric damper to adjust your draft.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri May 30, 2008 9:14 am

Jack Magnum wrote:I just got off the phone with a mason and he says for me to check out pricing on 16x16 chimney block and clay flue sections etc. I will need 30 blocks high. plus sakcrete and mortar and he will let me know tomorrow how much he needs to get labor. He says the inside will be an 8'' flue. I told him the stove was 6'' and he says the extra draft can be cut back by the stove if need be. What size is your masonary flues ?
Jack


In the long run you will be much happier with a "permanent" masonry chimney than a metal one that will have to be replaced periodically. Get a few estimates & I'll bet you wont spend allot more than you would on a metal one.

My flue is 8x8 too.....I think that's pretty much a standard size
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Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Fri May 30, 2008 9:57 am

Mine is 8 x8.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: WIcoal On: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:24 am

LsFarm wrote:For the TLC 2000; if you can, buy some of both pea and nut size coal.. and try them both... for maximum heat output, nut will be better, but you might like the pea size for most of the time..

Greg L
Will rice size produce even less heat than the pea size? Or, will it not even work in that stove? What does Harman recommend?

Regarding Harman central furnaces. They sell a wood pellet hot air furnace and boiler, but only a boiler for coal. I wonder why they do not sell a coal hot air furnace.
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Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:30 am

WIcoal wrote:Will rice size produce even less heat than the pea size? Or, will it not even work in that stove? What does Harman recommend?


Rice size is too small to burn in the TLC. It would just fall through the shaker grates.
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Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

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