Harman TLC 2000, Burning Wood

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:57 am

Jack Magnum wrote:Only other difference I see so far is the window was starting to get dirty with the clean out in place.


That's because you don't have that gale force wind blowing by it & up your chimney, trying to heat your neighborhood! :lol:
Devil505
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:56 am

:D :D :D :D :D
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:34 am

BiG Jam wrote:OK here I go this is my first year with coal and this is my first stove. (coal)
Been burning now since nov 08 almost went through 3 tons!!! :mad:
Have had some problems The shaker does get stuck a lot and some ash from
opening the door. But all in all LOVE THE HEAT!!! :D
Only get about 9 hours of good burn time, then it gets low and not much heat.
I have read a lot and as for what Devil505 said about the 2nd layer of brick it's Great I did it. Thanks :lol:


Thats a lot of coal to burn in such a short amount of time. Make sure the above fire vents on the sides are closed. (all the way down) Make sure the clean out door is in place. If none of these changes reduce your coal consumption then you should invest in a barometric damper. You may have too strong a draft.
If you don't have a blower. Get one. I leave mine on low all the time. This way I don't have to run as hot to get the heat moving.

I have only used about 1 1/2 ton since October sixth and have been burning steady since then without a restart.

I forgot to mention in cold weather I never have to exceed 400 degrees stove temperature which is 200 on the exhaust pipe and only open three notches from being closed on my draft adjustment.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
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Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: BiG Jam On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:33 pm

Thanks Devil and EasyRay
The fire vent are closed and clean out door in place.
I don't have a blower or a barometric damper.
From what you all say I think I am asking to much of the stove to
Heat the whole house.
Thanks for all your help and if you any more, Please let me know :D
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Nut and Pea Mix
Other Heating: Oil hot water Propane
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC 2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:53 pm

BiG Jam wrote:I don't have a blower


The TLC2000 definitely needs a blower! I ran mine for 2 winters before people here convinced me to add a blower &.... it makes a HUGE difference! (The TLC is a jacketed stove & all that nice hot air gets trapped in the jacket & needs to be blown out with a blower. I didn't buy the Harman blower which is expensive & connects to the stove, maybe creating a rattling noise problem. Instead I bought a separate blower fan
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/BB-3000.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
which sits on the floor behind the stove & connects to the air entry hole (under the stove) via a cheap duct fitting.
Trust me....You'll get double the heat out of your stove with no in crease in :up: stove temp or coal usage!

(that is probably your problem with poor heat performance, right there)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: BiG Jam On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:02 pm

Thanks Devil
I will buy a blower from the web address you sent
The Dealer Rella Coal told me I would not need one. :roll:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Nut and Pea Mix
Other Heating: Oil hot water Propane
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC 2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:13 pm

BiG Jam wrote:Thanks Devil


They usually have them at Lowes or H. Depot, but any blower fan will work fine. You'll also need a duct fitting & foil tape to connect it to the 3"X3" square inlet under the stove. It washes hot air the jacket behind & on top of the stove. (just run it at low or medium speed, that's all you need. High speed cools the stove too much)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: BiG Jam On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:21 pm

Is it hot back there?
Will the duct melt?
I will give it a try.

I will keep you informed after install
and running for a few days.
Thanks Again
:D :lol:
BiG Jam
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Nut and Pea Mix
Other Heating: Oil hot water Propane
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC 2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:29 pm

BiG Jam wrote:Is it hot back there?

No

BiG Jam wrote:Will the duct melt?

No..the duct fitting is metal anyway ...like this...http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=p ... lpage=none
(the rectangular end.... connect/tape to the fan & the round end tape to the bottom of the stove, covering the air inlet hole)

BiG Jam wrote:I will keep you informed after install
and running for a few days.
Thanks Again


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Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:41 am

Devil505 wrote:
BiG Jam wrote:I don't have a blower


The TLC2000 definitely needs a blower! I ran mine for 2 winters before people here convinced me to add a blower &.... it makes a HUGE difference! (The TLC is a jacketed stove & all that nice hot air gets trapped in the jacket & needs to be blown out with a blower. I didn't buy the Harman blower which is expensive & connects to the stove, maybe creating a rattling noise problem. Instead I bought a separate blower fan
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/BB-3000.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
which sits on the floor behind the stove & connects to the air entry hole (under the stove) via a cheap duct fitting.
Trust me....You'll get double the heat out of your stove with no in crease in :up: stove temp or coal usage!

(that is probably your problem with poor heat performance, right there)
Right you RRRRRR about the blower. I was really disapointed of it's performance without the blower on. I can't understand it. I have a farmer friend who has a Vermont casting and when I go into his house you can feel the heat radiate with NO blower. My brother-in law has a Yodel wood stove and has the same nice heat transfer without the blower. I need the blower on to feel the same heat that they experience.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:46 am

Jack Magnum wrote:Right you RRRRRR about the blower. I was really disapointed of it's performance without the blower on. I can't understand it.


Because it is a jacketed stove Jack. That jacket focuses the heat better & allows for much closer installations to combustible surfaces. Running an inexpensive blower fan is a small price to pay for that, imo.
(I ran mine for 2 years without a blower, & boy was I a dummy! :oops: )

Edit: I believe you can take the side jackets off the stove if you have the clearance & want more radiated heat.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:24 am

Yes, you can take the jackets off if you don't have clearance issues but it loses the good looking stove appearance without them IMO.
My wife liked it because its a good looking stove. Everything has to look just right to my wife or be in its proper place. I on the other hand prefer function over appearance. In this case we both got what we wanted. ;)
Even the MK 2 and MK 3 without jackets have optional blowers. The MK 2 is the same 72,000 btu as the TLC2000 but its not a top load design.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:24 pm

EasyRay wrote:Yes, you can take the jackets off if you don't have clearance issues but it loses the good looking stove appearance without them IMO.
My wife liked it because its a good looking stove. Everything has to look just right to my wife or be in its proper place. I on the other hand prefer function over appearance. In this case we both got what we wanted. ;)
Even the MK 2 and MK 3 without jackets have optional blowers. The MK 2 is the same 72,000 btu as the TLC2000 but its not a top load design.
I hear ya with the wife thing. Mine had to have the large viewing window and gold door :D Love the stove but durning our power outage I was disapointed with the low output of heat.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Harman TLC 2000

PostBy: EasyRay On: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:56 am

If you have any more power outages. Look at the clearance requirements of the MK 2. (33 inches side clearance) and if you fall within those you can just remove the jackets for the outage and put them back later. If only one side falls inside within that clearance than just remove one side.

Just some rambling thoughts on my part.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000
Coal Size/Type: Pea,Nut or Stove

Re: Harman TLC 2000, Burning Wood

PostBy: GaryFerg On: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:52 pm

How about dust inside the house? Is the stove pretty tight?
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