A snow shovel for Aroostook county

A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:17 pm

http://westernmass.craigslist.org/hvo/5270354948.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3h1wl_NCj8

All for the price of a little JD snow tractor, they can't give it away. 225HP Deere engine. I think it has somebodies name on it up there. You know the guy on this board that could not get his truck started. Come to CN for investment advice. :)
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: northernmainecoal On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:43 pm

If it starts I don't want it. I have a perfectly good MF1105 with a 9 ft blower that doesn't start. What could be better
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:55 pm

Oh do come on NMC, that 6 cylinder Perkins is indestructible what is wrong with it? I don't like turbos as a rule and the water pumps in that series are not worth a damn. Have you tried talking to it nicely. I do like your scale of thinking however, a 9' blower WOW. I am bored let's see if we can get it going before your 11 month winter hits you. Let me take a wild guess, below 45* it won't start and above that temp there is not much snow to blow. So unless you blew the c rap out of the motor with ether it's fixable. WAM here, have we not been down this road before?
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: northernmainecoal On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:08 pm

We have been down this road before, i mighta lernt somethin too. I think the starting issues have been fixed, replaced the block heater, new batteries, cleaned grounds, new gasket on the fuel pump, fixed some hydro leaks and plan on putting an oil pan heater on it before winter really hits. if that doesn't do it I think ill sell it and buy another BB and just stay home all winter
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:18 pm

OK, your half way there. Those injection pumps always leak back and you lose prime. So a hard turn off valve is good or at least a spin on filter. Do you have a manifold preheater like on your truck? Those engines like to be warm and running a snow blower in N Maine is a challenging application for that series. The good news it's all fixable cheaply with a few simple tricks. So I will give you a full starting procedure if you are interested. So be of good cheer, instead you might have bought a tier 4 diesel brandy new JD tractor, Then you will really know the meaning of trouble.
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: northernmainecoal On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:07 pm

ah, i do lose prime when it sits, i was thinking it was the bad gasket on the pump...I'm all ears
no preheater, just the block heater and soon to be oil pan heater
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:18 pm

A new gasket never hurts but an unlikely cause of the problem and now you know how to fix it. Lack of prime is suspect number 2 with those engines. Number 1 is they like to be warm. So you can install a manifold preheater if you know what you are doing, I would bet there is a plug for that. Of course, ether and manifold heaters do not mix. I also favor just wrapping a gas soaked rag around the intake and let the engine warm up on gasoline in your neck of the woods (no smoking allowed). GREAT engines if you take care of those things.

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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:13 am

A little thread drift as I wait for a response. I had a Cat D7 cable blade as my favorite snow remover and regret ever selling it. The pony motor meant that even in Aroostook County I could always start it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrY_8uvG-xo

Of course, my left shoulder was numb for days from pulling on that cable control for hours after a big snow storm. We called him TIny and when I lost a track one day, that started another big adventure in my life. No bites on the Bombardier - bummer. Pierre uses one just to go to the beer store. :D hahahahahaha, I slay myself.
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: northernmainecoal On: Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:09 am

coalnewbie wrote:A new gasket never hurts but an unlikely cause of the problem and now you know how to fix it. Lack of prime is suspect number 2 with those engines. Number 1 is they like to be warm. So you can install a manifold preheater if you know what you are doing, I would bet there is a plug for that. Of course, ether and manifold heaters do not mix. I also favor just wrapping a gas soaked rag around the intake and let the engine warm up on gasoline in your neck of the woods (no smoking allowed). GREAT engines if you take care of those things.

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If there is a plug it'd be right in the intake manifold I assume?
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:19 am

OK, now let's have some fun. Your engine I think is a 6.354 or close. How do I know this (as I am too lazy to look it up). My Bombardier SW48 has a Perkins 4.236. 4 cylinders and a 236in displacement. So let's look at my example.

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Let me tell you how mine will work. There is no time for preglow, no lights, nothing. It consists of a coil of resistance wire that heats up and opens a thermostatic valve, allowing fuel to drip on the coil and ignite. If I remember correctly, we would turn the key to the preheat position, and wait for a "puff" sound from the intake before turning to start. I have yet to play with it.... English Magic .... but it beats the EPA by a long shot. This is mine and probably yours too ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkins-Diesel- ... SwEeFU9lGJ

The puff gets blown into the engine. This is the only way to start your engine in the depth of winter if you live near Santas house. It was a MF option but it is essential for N Maine. We both have Perkins from about the same era. Now your obviously a savvy guy and I hope I have not insulted you. Let me know how you are doing. When you are clearing 10' of snow away with your rig, I demand pitchers. Life is nothing without pitchers, as it just did not happen (board rules). Here is a photo of Freddys drive
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/T ... snow+2.bmp

As CN has said before, "Knowledge is power and now you know".
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:44 am

Could clean my entire driveway plus half the street in one pass with that thing! And it's in western MA!

I'm sure the staties won't mind it hanging 5' over each fender while exceeding my weight limit by 5k - Imma go git it! :D
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: northernmainecoal On: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:41 pm

Thanks, I'll check it out soon and let you know what happens

coalnewbie wrote:OK, now let's have some fun. Your engine I think is a 6.354 or close. How do I know this (as I am too lazy to look it up). My Bombardier SW48 has a Perkins 4.236. 4 cylinders and a 236in displacement. So let's look at my example.

See the middle of the photo
100_0703.JPG


A close up
100_0704.JPG


Let me tell you how mine will work. There is no time for preglow, no lights, nothing. It consists of a coil of resistance wire that heats up and opens a thermostatic valve, allowing fuel to drip on the coil and ignite. If I remember correctly, we would turn the key to the preheat position, and wait for a "puff" sound from the intake before turning to start. I have yet to play with it.... English Magic .... but it beats the EPA by a long shot. This is mine and probably yours too ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkins-Diesel- ... SwEeFU9lGJ

The puff gets blown into the engine. This is the only way to start your engine in the depth of winter if you live near Santas house. It was a MF option but it is essential for N Maine. We both have Perkins from about the same era. Now your obviously a savvy guy and I hope I have not insulted you. Let me know how you are doing. When you are clearing 10' of snow away with your rig, I demand pitchers. Life is nothing without pitchers, as it just did not happen (board rules). Here is a photo of Freddys drive
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/T ... snow+2.bmp

As CN has said before, "Knowledge is power and now you know".
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:09 am

I was looking for a demo of why this is so efficient and why no other system compares ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlFettLu11Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi4mV8nrfz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeDvCVS38hk

Before you install it you can test it like this. It's a bit like the old diesel systems where you started them on gasoline. Don't use this system with ether or your turbo unit may end up on Freddys lawn. Now if you have lost prime and fuel pressure it will not work so get it working and test that it is functional otherwise you are urinating in the wind up there. So turn on that hard fuel isolator and then start it up immediately and remember to turn off the valve when you are done..... The things I do to keep my Maine cousins entertained. :)

All this assumes that you do you not have a cold start excess fuel button and that you know how to use it.... "The excess fuel button is on the side of the injection pump. Makes a BIG difference if starting them in cold weather. Open the throttle wide open first. Then step out of the cab to push the button. If I remember correctly, it is on the right side of the pump. It's just a little metal shaft that extends out the side. Push it in till it clicks. Then start the tractor without touching the throttle till it fires. If you move the throttle, you disengage it. One other thing to remember is to always push the fuel shutoff back in once the tractor is shut off. If the tractor sits for a lengthy period, it is supposed to prevent the fuel from draining back into the tank. It must work cause I stored mine over one winter with the knob out and had it drain back. First and only time I did that. Never had it drain back with the knob pushed in."
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:42 am

Thermostart on the JD...
Just like my old Yanmar...
Gotta fix mine the fuel just runs through it...
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Re: A snow shovel for Aroostook county

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:40 am

Cripes,this had to be my best morning read in forever ! I'm still laughing,and I learned a Helluva lot about Maine Winters,Perkins Diesels and Coalnewbie's Informative,if not unique Mentoring Style ! HaHa,He does slay himself ! :rofl: :up:
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