Is This a GOOD Burn?

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cozmicray
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Post by cozmicray » Sat. Nov. 14, 2015 11:55 pm

Is my stove burning right?
New to this -- stove in house I purchased
Kodiak freestanding stoker stove III
Hearth mount -- full chimney, no baro
Ricecoal_burn_11_14_15.jpg

Rice coal burn in Kodiak

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Rice coal (unknown source)
Burn is about 3 inches but about 2 inches from edge of chute
max air, medium stoke (carpet stoker, about 3/8" stroke)
30 deg outside

All new gaskets,

I get lots of what looks like klinker, what is good burn ash suppose to look like?

Also looks like there a 1000 different Alaska "Kodiak" stoves???

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Post by oliver power » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 12:43 am

I'm assuming you're running flat out. The feed doesn't look too bad. You could give it a little more feed if needed. I'd leave the feed where it is for now. If the feed does the job, leave it alone. The wide open air is likely your clinker problem. You're running too hot. Instead of wide open, try going half open. Half, or a little less is common. You should install a barometric damper. One came with my Keystoker "stoker boiler". Without one, excess heat goes up the chimney. You don't need a strong chimney draft, as air is being pushed through the coal bed. You need just enough draft to take fumes away. My Keystoker boiler is set at -.02.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 7:32 am

cozmicray,Welcome to the coal forum where most everyone is coal crazy & warm.Kodiak is apparently a highly favored name with the Alaska company,they have used it with stokers like yours & currently use that name for their big handfed stove. You are not alone with the name to what stove confusion.

 
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Post by joeq » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 8:45 am

Another Welcome Cozy. You came to the right forum for advice. Lots of coal die-hards here, some with decades of experience. One question tho. Is this Kodiac your only heating source in the house, or is it supplemental? Not sure if you're familiar with the benefits of coal, but if you ever decide to convert to an alternate heating source, you may regret it. (But that's a thread in itself.)
As for your ash concern, could you post a picture, so we can see where you're coming from? I haven't burned rice, and am not too familiar with your stove, so I can't give you any practical advice. But there are many members with your stove, and similar units, that I'm sure will have answers for you. But 1st they need to get out of bed. :D
Good luck with your stove, and the new house.


 
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Post by cozmicray » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 11:11 am

I have maybe 2 feet of stove pipe in hearth to mount barometric damper.

Wouldn't that just suck out a lot of nice hot air right near my stove?

What is correct flue temperature, draft.

Tnx
:?:
oliver power wrote:I'm assuming you're running flat out. The feed doesn't look too bad. You could give it a little more feed if needed. I'd leave the feed where it is for now. If the feed does the job, leave it alone. The wide open air is likely your clinker problem. You're running too hot. Instead of wide open, try going half open. Half, or a little less is common. You should install a barometric damper. One came with my Keystoker "stoker boiler". Without one, excess heat goes up the chimney. You don't need a strong chimney draft, as air is being pushed through the coal bed. You need just enough draft to take fumes away. My Keystoker boiler is set at -.02.

 
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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 11:23 am

[quote="cozmicray"]I have maybe 2 feet of stove pipe in hearth to mount barometric damper.

Wouldn't that just suck out a lot of nice hot air right near my stove?

What is correct flue temperature, draft.

Tnx
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No, that would keep your chimney from sucking all the heat out of your stove and venting it outside. This will let your stove radiate more heat into your home.

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Post by joeq » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 2:33 pm

The baro, (when adjusted properly), should only open when you get excessive wind across your chimney.

 
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Post by cozmicray » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 8:10 pm

I have no idea of what a "DSM Basement 4" stove looks like
or how it works?
400 degrees where? Anthracite burns at roughly 900 degrees or higher?

What is standard location for firebox temperature measurement?

My flue Temperature was 120 - 130 degrees measured by non contact temperature gun.
On my next burn I will make better measurements?

There should be a "Whats that stove section"
Showing outside of stove,
-- inner workings
-- heat exchange --- hot air, water, etc

I think your stove puts out 3 times the BTUs of my stove.
must have massive feed and blower?

Thanks
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Post by Ed.A » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 8:55 pm

cozmicray wrote:I My flue Temperature was 120 - 130 degrees measured by non contact temperature gun.
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Sounds about right.

 
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Post by cozmicray » Sun. Nov. 15, 2015 9:08 pm

Do you :
shovel coal into firebox by hand?
or is it gravity fed?
Use a hand powered bellows for air injection?

The warmed air around stove is waffed to cold areas by elves?

Without forced air -- my coal extinguishes

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strat0 wrote:No sir, my stove has no electrical parts what so ever.. I was just using my stove as an example.. my temp measurement is right on top of the stove, to the back of the box. Hottest spot on it. The other temp measurement was on the flue, AFTER the Barometric damper.

 
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Post by blrman07 » Mon. Nov. 16, 2015 6:48 am

cozmicray wrote:Do you :
shovel coal into firebox by hand?
that's how a hand fed stove gets its coal
or is it gravity fed? Some use a hopper that fits in the top of the stove
Use a hand powered bellows for air injection? Really??? It draws it in naturally as the chimney establishes a draft.

The warmed air around stove is waffed to cold areas by elves? It's by a process called convection.

Without forced air -- my coal extinguishes That's because rice coal is small and compact and needs a forced draft to burn.

 
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Post by titleist1 » Mon. Nov. 16, 2015 7:02 am

Welcome to the forum cozmicray!

I noticed you have some general questions about coal burning and stoves that may be answered in this thread:

Introduction to Coal Burning

There are others with your Kodiac stoker that will have experience and be able to answer your specific questions related to your stove.

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