The Bairmatic - Van Wert Project
- lsayre
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I agree, it looks factory fresh!titleist1 wrote:Great Job SD!! That boiler is looking great!
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
O,Olllotj wrote:it depends whose square feet you're talking about!
Boy Don you really got that boiler cleaned up nice. Do you know what size the water jacket is?
I'm very interested in how you like it in your basement vs the garage.
I have not figured out a way to measure how much water is in one of these things. My gut felling / guesstimation from filling and draining 4 different boilers several times. The Losch held a lot more water than the other three, 80 gallons? The Yellow Flame and the GJ seem about the same, Yellow Flame manual states 51 gallons. The BairMatic takes noticeably less time to fill than any of the others, Maybe 35-40 Gallons?
-Don
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Yes, it's a shame that this happens. It seems like there are a lot of high quality old boilers hiding in basements all over coal country. I can't bare to think of them being cut up for scrap! I guess I need to build on to my garage.McGiever wrote:It's a shame, but boilers that looked like your before pic get sent off to the scrapyard every day to go be remelted.
Thanks for rescuing another one SD.
-Don
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
It's a good thing the BairMatic has that big side cover then. If/when the paint sluffs off, I can pull the side cover and brush it out.Rob R. wrote:I would not have painted the inside of the boiler. When the paint begins to peel off it will collect fly ash.
We'll see how long this paint lasts. I painted my EFM S-20 stoker with this stuff and I am surprised how well it is doing. Then again, that is not directly over the fire like those plates are.
-Don
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Whoops! Sorry guys. I didn't know I was supposed to leave it silver!lsayre wrote:I agree, it looks factory fresh!titleist1 wrote:Great Job SD!! That boiler is looking great!
The BairMatic is a bit smaller then the other two. Nice and compact!
-Don
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Now there is actual video proof of the existence of the BairMatic!
-Don
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Well thanks WW!wildwood wrote:Wow handy work!
-Don
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
How To Get A Coal Stoker Boiler Into Your Basement (Hill Billy Method):
First cover the nice pretty boiler with cardboard so the paint don't git all bashed up. Check your rigging to the boiler. Then ya needs ta rig up yer Hill Billy Tow Truck. Then hook'er up. Remove the steps from the basement and start lower'in er in thar. It's in thar!
It 's gona end up bout' thar. I still got's all my fingers to. All a 1 man job.
-Don
First cover the nice pretty boiler with cardboard so the paint don't git all bashed up. Check your rigging to the boiler. Then ya needs ta rig up yer Hill Billy Tow Truck. Then hook'er up. Remove the steps from the basement and start lower'in er in thar. It's in thar!
It 's gona end up bout' thar. I still got's all my fingers to. All a 1 man job.
-Don
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Man! You gotta love this stuff!!!!!! There that boiler sits with a oil fired and a wood fired. Three in the basement and three in the garage. You are the most "into it" guy on the forum. There isn't even anyone to put you up against. Hahahaha
- StokerDon
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
All three flavors right in one basement!
-Don
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Well there Don,
That there is some fine riggin , that ya done ther.
That aside I think you got the right idea moving that into the basement.
I know I am just a newbie but heating the garage just seems like a waste, just my opinion of course.
Now not insulating the boiler will be not as bad if the heat radiates into your home.
Get'r done Don
CS
That there is some fine riggin , that ya done ther.
That aside I think you got the right idea moving that into the basement.
I know I am just a newbie but heating the garage just seems like a waste, just my opinion of course.
Now not insulating the boiler will be not as bad if the heat radiates into your home.
Get'r done Don
CS
- StokerDon
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
Today I'm working on placing the boiler, chimney connection and starting the plumbing.
Placement is a little tricky. With the Harman and the oil furnace in the way the BairMatic will be about 5 or 6 feet from the chimney thimble. The coal bin will be right in front of the Harman. The 1x's on the floor mark the perimeter of the proposed coal bin. I need a longer feed pipe for that bin auger though. I have the stoker plate, the transfer pipe and the bin feed mocked up on there so I can see where everything lands. With this orientation the feed lands in the end of the bin. I will section off the last 2 feet of the bin to use as a hopper. This will eliminate the 55 gallon drum and make feeding a little easier. The stovepipe will travel at an angle upward to help draft the long horizontal run. Plumbing will be short and sweet. There is the supply and there is where it's got to go. I am not going to use "pump away" on this install. The pump will be near the bottom of the return to the boiler. I will install a third zone valve to control the garage zone.
I think I will be able to set this up with valves so that I can run either boiler to heat all three zones OR break it into House/DHW on 1 boiler and garage on the other boiler.
-Don
Placement is a little tricky. With the Harman and the oil furnace in the way the BairMatic will be about 5 or 6 feet from the chimney thimble. The coal bin will be right in front of the Harman. The 1x's on the floor mark the perimeter of the proposed coal bin. I need a longer feed pipe for that bin auger though. I have the stoker plate, the transfer pipe and the bin feed mocked up on there so I can see where everything lands. With this orientation the feed lands in the end of the bin. I will section off the last 2 feet of the bin to use as a hopper. This will eliminate the 55 gallon drum and make feeding a little easier. The stovepipe will travel at an angle upward to help draft the long horizontal run. Plumbing will be short and sweet. There is the supply and there is where it's got to go. I am not going to use "pump away" on this install. The pump will be near the bottom of the return to the boiler. I will install a third zone valve to control the garage zone.
I think I will be able to set this up with valves so that I can run either boiler to heat all three zones OR break it into House/DHW on 1 boiler and garage on the other boiler.
-Don