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StokerDon
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- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 11:25 am
Wood'nCoal wrote:Oh!!!
The oil gun was stuck through the viewing door?
Yes it was. Speaking of viewing door, I was considering making a stove glass insert so I can use this door and look at the pretty fire.
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windyhill4.2
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by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 11:34 am
StokerDon wrote:Wood'nCoal wrote:Oh!!!
The oil gun was stuck through the viewing door?
Yes it was. Speaking of viewing door, I was considering making a stove glass insert so I can use this door and look at the pretty fire.
-Don
As I watched the video last nite,i was hoping that you would see the hole in the door the same way that I was ,....as a good place for glass, no need to purchase another door that way.
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StokerDon
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 11:39 am
I've been so busy that I must have forgot to post photos of the doors!
Fire door with oil gun attachment hole.
Ashpan door. It was jammed shut and we broke the nice cast handle trying to open it.
Air scoop and aquastat. The aquastat might still work. It's a good thing to keep around just in-case the boiler needs to be installed on the cheap (like they always do).
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windyhill4.2
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by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 11:48 am
The studs to bolt the glass on are already there too !
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StokerDon
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 11:58 am
Shoot, your right W.H.
I could just make a square frame and get a small piece of stove glass, gasket it on there, done!
I could even put it on my current GJ for some aw sum fire veiwing!
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windyhill4.2
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by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 12:02 pm
I like when plans come together without even planning it .
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StokerDon
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Sun. Nov. 29, 2015 3:19 pm
Well I really shouldn't be doing this today, there is other work to be done but I couldn't resist! It was quick and easy to remove a few fittings and add valves and a gauge.
Got it full and did a little preliminary flushing.
Pressured it up to just below 40 PSI and 110 degrees.
Looks good so far. The DHW plate isn't dripping and the boiler is holding pressure. With 110 degree water the pressure will drop as it cools. With it being outside it will cool quickly.
The firebox roof.
The back plate that isolates the bottom of the firebox from the flyash trap took a beating from the oil gun! It's warped and a bit thin.
This is the other side of it looking up from the bottom of the flyash trap into the two wet plates in the back of the boiler.
Also in these photos of the inside, you can see the crap stuck to the inside. This is coal ash, coal and clinkers that are just glued onto the steel because of the oil residue. YUK!!! And this is after a fair amount of cleaning with hot hot water.
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StokerDon
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Mon. Nov. 30, 2015 2:28 pm
Small GJ-51 Pressure Test === PASS!
It was pretty cold here last night so after the boiler temp got down to 80 degrees the pressure had dropped to 28 PSI. At that point I pumped it up to about 44 PSI. When I checked it at about 0630 this morning it was 32 PSI. It was still 32 PSI when I drained it at about 1300 this afternoon.
No sign of any leaks. I keep hitting the DHW coil nuts with PB Blaster in the vain hope that they won't brake!
I tipped it up on one corner and gave it a good flushing.
Looks like we have a good pressure vessel!
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CoalHeat
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by CoalHeat » Mon. Nov. 30, 2015 4:46 pm
My GJ has the remains of the baffle inside as well.
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StokerDon
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by StokerDon » Mon. Nov. 30, 2015 6:51 pm
Wood'nCoal wrote:My GJ has the remains of the baffle inside as well.
I wonder if the baffle makes it work any better?
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CoalHeat
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by CoalHeat » Mon. Nov. 30, 2015 7:13 pm
I would think so, like the baffle plate or plates on an EFM.
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Mon. Nov. 30, 2015 7:25 pm
It sure needs something to help the gas path. Without a baffle, the heat just goes up from the fire pot, down to the bottom in back then up the back exhaust passage. It doesn't seem to be a very efficient design. Gas path wise, It's nothing like my other GJ.
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
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by StokerDon » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 7:08 pm
While I had my Hill Billy Tow Truck rigged up today I moved the small GJ into the garage.
The ash diverter is still in one piece and looks usable!
As you can see, this one is quite a bit smaller then the one I am using.
Well there it is. Once I get the BairMatic hooked up and running in the basement I can start on this one.
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by StokerDon » Sat. Jan. 09, 2016 11:04 am
In looking at this boiler and the one that NEU has a thread on, This boiler doesn't have a steam chest, does it?
The top of the firebox is arched all the way to the back, just like the top of the outside.
If that is so, I wonder where the DHW coil goes?
There can't be much room behind that DHW cover plate, the firebox is right on the other side. Maybe it just takes a very small DHW coil?
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by Dave 1234 » Sat. Jan. 09, 2016 12:51 pm
SD, My International boiler looks just like this too. The DHW plate and bolt pattern looks identical. When I took it apart there was a 20' ( or looked that long ) coil of soft 3/4'' copper coiled up on top of the fire arch.
Works great, I never see a dip in the hot water temp.
Dave