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Post by Freespirit » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 7:33 am

2001Sierra wrote:Wasn't the Efel a cast iron unit? Burning coal in a cast iron stove is a whole different animal.

Relax Fred it is warm outside so we need to talk about something :shock:
Yes Efel was cast iron and beautiful!


 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 10:49 am

I'm looking forward to seeing your results with the bimetal thermostat. I expect it will make running the stove a little simpler for you. :)

 
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Post by Rob R. » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 2:25 pm

Freespirit wrote:We could not get the bi-metal working so we added washers to the baro got the mano down to 2.5 stove is at 390 but stack temp is still at 140 so going to let it go down tomorrow and get the bi-metal working and go from there.
There isn't much to "get working" unless it is somehow damaged or defective. Alaska should be able to help you troubleshoot it.

 
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Post by Freespirit » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:19 pm

Ok fellas talked with the people from Alaska this morning told them all that I had for concerns even that my baro is fully open all the time while adjusted at the highest setting. The guy said wow you have a strong drafting chimney I said yes I do he told me to use a mpd with it also. So first mano then baro then mpd. once fire is established turn mpd until mano settles down to 3 or 4 which should be baro open about 1/2". You will all be happy to know I took out the insulation. My bi-metal is set so now I am ready to light her. Here goes nothing!

 
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Post by franco b » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:33 pm

There should be no restriction between the baro and chimney. The MPD would go before the baro. Placing the MPD after the baro could potentially allow flue gas to exit the baro under weak draft conditions if the MPD were closed.

 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:37 pm

I'm curious to see the new stove vs pipe temps without the air bypasses blocked. :)

 
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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:42 pm

I would of been curious to see how it works w/ just the bi-metallic working properly without all the add on do-dads.


 
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Post by franco b » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:46 pm

freetown fred wrote:I would of been curious to see how it works w/ just the bi-metallic working properly without all the add on do-dads.
Have to agree with Fred. If the stove is tight the bi-metal alone can handle a wide draft swing.

 
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Post by Freespirit » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:51 pm

franco b wrote:There should be no restriction between the baro and chimney. The MPD would go before the baro. Placing the MPD after the baro could potentially allow flue gas to exit the baro under weak draft conditions if the MPD were closed.
The mpd is not going to be closed all the way only enough to bring the mano back to a 3 or 4 according to what the guy at alaska said baro should have about a 1/2 " gap.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 4:58 pm

I still think putting foil over the baro & seein how she does would be a good thing to try.

 
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Post by Freespirit » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 6:46 pm

franco b wrote:There should be no restriction between the baro and chimney. The MPD would go before the baro. Placing the MPD after the baro could potentially allow flue gas to exit the baro under weak draft conditions if the MPD were closed.
Are you saying the manufacturers of my stove do not know what they are talking about?

 
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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 7:15 pm

The reality of askin 10 different people the same question is you'll eventually get the preconceived answer ya already had in the first place. Yes, people burning daily usually have more knowledge then even some of those that make them.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 9:58 pm

Freespirit wrote:
franco b wrote:There should be no restriction between the baro and chimney. The MPD would go before the baro. Placing the MPD after the baro could potentially allow flue gas to exit the baro under weak draft conditions if the MPD were closed.
Are you saying the manufacturers of my stove do not know what they are talking about?
US Stove Company, at one time had the same type of info on their site and in the manual (baro, then MPD) . When they realized the mistake, they removed the online manual.

I can tell you that if I close my MPD, smoke will come out of the joints on my flue pipe, the load door and the ashpan door. I use bit coal, and it is smoky, so I can see it. You have anthracite, no smoke to be seen................

Be sure to have your CO detectors operational just in case.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 10:31 pm

My basement #4 ran best on just the Bi-Metalic...
Set it and forget it...
Would keep a constant heat output...
Minor adjustment for every 10* outdoor temp drop...

 
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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 10:34 pm

Indeed, the way their meant to work when set properly. Usually a good start is 22 balls on the chain from the flap to the clasp..


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