UL "Exemption" for Older Coal Stoves

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 10:28 am

Canaan coal man wrote:I searched online for NFPA211 2013 guidelines but they want you to buy them....... :mad:
New guidelines are renewed every 3 years so a new code book will be out by 2016.

Now why wouldn't you make that public? So someone like myself who's trying to be a law abiding citizen and have a law abiding installed stove now has to pay more to do the right thing?
the same goes for the UL737 ... they just tell you the overview of what the code will tell you but they want you to buy the book.

I had chimney work done and the company got a building permit .. He asked me what I was gonna be burning and I said coal. That was as far as the conversation went . So I guess the county knows I had chimney work to burn coal . As far as anything else goes though nothing was discussed or prompted .

I think the laws are vague with the reason a permit needs to be had. I believe in this county it states that if you install a new stove or replace your existing stove a permit needs to be had . however I believe that is only for those who may have a business that would be doing the work. I can find nothing regarding a homeowner putting in a stove prior to UL listings.

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 11:05 am

nevermind
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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 11:11 am

Smokeyja wrote:I FOUND IT ! This is from MASS.GOV

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Yes, it's over here: Massachusetts "UL Exemption" for Older Coal Stoves

Scott got the 'sticky' he wanted.


 
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Post by Smokeyja » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 11:15 am

SWPaDon wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:I FOUND IT ! This is from MASS.GOV

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Yes, it's over here: Massachusetts "UL Exemption" for Older Coal Stoves

Scott got the 'sticky' he wanted.
thanks! for the record I did find it online without knowing anyone else had but I have deleted it because I felt stupid about that haha

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 11:17 am

"Scott got the 'sticky' he wanted"----------Thank God. Now we can ALL get some sleep. ;)

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 11:18 am

Smokeyja wrote: thanks! for the record I did find it online without knowing anyone else had but I have deleted it because I felt stupid about that haha
No need to feel that way my friend, it all happened very quickly.


 
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Post by Smokeyja » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 12:38 pm

I actually found multiple listing for other states while looking for information in Virginia . I guess their is none . That's the end of the search for me

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 12:59 pm

Smokeyja wrote:I actually found multiple listing for other states while looking for information in Virginia . I guess their is none . That's the end of the search for me
Which other states did you find? Others on here are interested, and those could be 'stickied' as well.

 
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Post by Smokeyja » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 1:07 pm

SWPaDon wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:I actually found multiple listing for other states while looking for information in Virginia . I guess their is none . That's the end of the search for me
Which other states did you find? Others on here are interested, and those could be 'stickied' as well.
Maine .

I. Installation of Solid Fuel Burning Stoves
1. Solid fuel–burning stoves shall be one of the following:
a. Listed and installed in accordance with the terms of their listing and this section
b. Approved by the AHJ
2. Unlisted stoves approved by the AHJ shall be installed as follows:
a. In accordance with the manufacturer's instructions
b. As specified in this section


http://www.maine.gov/dps/fmo/documents/standardsf ... stoves.pdf

however I did not do any searches into what AHJ approved exactly means

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Dec. 04, 2015 3:12 pm

Smokeyja wrote:
SWPaDon wrote: Which other states did you find? Others on here are interested, and those could be 'stickied' as well.
Maine .

I. Installation of Solid Fuel Burning Stoves
1. Solid fuel–burning stoves shall be one of the following:
a. Listed and installed in accordance with the terms of their listing and this section
b. Approved by the AHJ
2. Unlisted stoves approved by the AHJ shall be installed as follows:
a. In accordance with the manufacturer's instructions
b. As specified in this section


http://www.maine.gov/dps/fmo/documents/standardsf ... stoves.pdf

however I did not do any searches into what AHJ approved exactly means
AHJ = Authority Having Jurisdiction.
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/AHJ

So, it could come down to the local code enforcement department has final say about if anyone in Maine can use an unlisted stove.

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