Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:44 pm

Richard S. wrote:Iraq is an industrialized country with 40 million people with the oil wealth to finance.



So why are we spending our tax money over there, since they're so wealthy?? Rebuilding thier country has crippled us. :crutch:
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: ken On: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:30 pm

buy a bunch of iraqi Dinars and sit on them for about 5 or 10 years. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:40 am

Just heard the Pentagon's figures (yesterday) that insurgent attacks are down to 200 per week.....DOWN TOO!!

By the way....for those of you who still believe anything this administration says, all insurgent attacks are Al Quieda & all attacks use munitions supplied by Iran. (I guess we can tell from the sound of the "Boom" they make!)
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:54 am

On a positive note for those of you without a defeatist attitude there hasn't been a hostile casualty since June 26, nearly two weeks ago.
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:02 am

Richard S. wrote:On a positive note for those of you without a defeatist attitude there hasn't been a hostile casualty since June 26, nearly two weeks ago.


Morning Richard..."Defeatist Attitude"??? The war has been over for years...We won~!! You can't "win" an occupation.

(BTW.....We will "Win" the "War" in Iraq the day after the signing ceremonies take place for our victories in the "War on Drugs" & the "War On Poverty")
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:50 am

This tells all:

U.S. opposes arbitrary withdrawal date for Iraq troops
Wed Jul 9, 1:46 AM ET

TOYAKO, Japan (Reuters) - The United States remains opposed to setting an "arbitrary" date for withdrawing troops from Iraq, the White House said on Wednesday after Iraqi officials called for a timetable as part of a security agreement being negotiated with Washington
Full Story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080709/ts_nm/iraq_usa_dc_2
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.



Now that Iraq's freely elected Parliament and their freely elected Prime Minister (Maliki) have both asked us to leave, it kinda gives the lie to Bush's (& McCain's for that matter) reason for staying, doesn't it???
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: spc On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:13 am

Its great to see that the Iraqi people have this positive attitude of taking their country back. And as for the "freely" elected Government, God bless President Bush & our brave men & women in uniform for making it happen.
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:18 am

spc wrote:Its great to see that the Iraqi people have this positive attitude of taking their country back. And as for the "freely" elected Government, God bless President Bush & our brave men & women in uniform for making it happen.




So....Don't you think we should "listen" to what those elected Iraqi officials want? (What is it called again, when you have your unwelcome troops in another country???....You know, like when Saddam Hussein kept his unwelcome troops in Kuwait a few years back???.............Got it!!....Aggression!)
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: spc On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:26 am

Devil5052 wrote:like when Saddam Hussein kept his unwelcome troops in Kuwait a
Comparing President Bush & our brave men & women in uniform with Saddam Hussein & his unwelcome troops. I'm not surprised.
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:35 am

spc wrote:Comparing President Bush & our brave men & women in uniform with Saddam Hussein & his unwelcome troops. I'm not surprised.


Sorry SPC, you're right-wing, Neo-con rhetoric wont work. Everyone knows that I am not disparaging our troops, they just follow orders. I do however, compare GW Bush with S. Hussein when you force your troops on a sovereign country that doesn't want them there, & the Iraqi's want us out.
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: spc On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:41 am

Troops re-enlist in Baghdad on Independence Day.



"they just follow orders"
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:52 am

spc wrote:"they just follow orders"


I fail to see your point?? Fighting men, facing death every day, develop a commraderee (sp) towards their fellow GI's. That's who these men & women are supporting by re-enlisting........Not GW Bush or Dick Cheney or John McCain. Doesn't the fact that over 78% of the American electorate (& now the elected official of the Iraqi government) want our troops out of Iraq have any meaning to you guys? (John McCain himself, 2 years ago said that if the Iraqis asked us to leave, that we should leave.....Another flip/flop?)
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:42 am

Devil5052 wrote:So....Don't you think we should "listen" to what those elected Iraqi officials want?


The Iraqi's are in no position to be demanding anything from us. Although the WDM was never found let's not forget that they kicked out inspectors and did just about everything possible to make themselves suspicious. If the inspectors had been allowed to stay in Iraq and allowed to do what they wanted do you think we'd be in this position now? Iraq had no say in the matter then and has none now. That's the way it works when you get your ass handed to you.

Once a protracted peace has been established and Iraq proves they remain stable then withdrawals can begin. If things continue as they are now and a slow withdrawal of troops can occur over the next year or two there is absolutely no reason to rush it.
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:01 pm

Richard S. wrote:The Iraqi's are in no position to be demanding anything from us.


Let me see if I understand your position Richard: If they formally ask us to leave their country, we should stay? (John McCain himself said we would have to leave)

Richard S. wrote:Although the WDM was never found let's not forget that they kicked out inspectors and did just about everything possible to make themselves suspicious. If the inspectors had been allowed to stay in Iraq and allowed to do what they wanted do you think we'd be in this position now?


It wasn't the Iraqi people who did that...It was Saddam Hussein.


Richard S. wrote:That's the way it works when you get your ass handed to you.


So we are morally right in occupying their country against their will because we are stronger than them? (if so, how are we different from any other aggressor in history?)
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Re: Iraq Spinning Out Of Control....Again!

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:12 pm

I'll make it clear to Devil, the Iraqi's or anyone else do not tell us what to do. We can make that decision for ourselves in our best interests.
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