Do Your Stoves "Sing" to You?
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I'm a rookie coal burner, long-time wood-burner, and so far I'm glad I switched. I'm having a lot of fun learning to use the two stoves I'm using, the Wehrle baseburner and the Warm Morning Locke 120. I have a mpd on the Locke and a baro plus a mpd on the Wehrle. We haven't had very cold weather here yet, with only a couple of days down around 9-15deg. F. It's mostly been in the low thirties at night. I'm using Blaschak nut in the Wehrle and Kimmels nut in the Locke. I can't say I can see a very big difference in them but maybe with more experience I will. I think later I might swap them and see if I can notice any differences then. They both have similar amounts of ashes and seem to be almost the same color, slightly reddish. I've fished out large pieces of wood from both kinds (4-5" long X 1" square). I've been able to maintain fires for long periods without problems. I only lost the fires two times due to not loading in time. I just goofed up by shaking it too much and I think too much cold air hit the coals. Anyway, what I have noticed is when the manometer shows the right draft, and the coals are nice and red with the soft blue flames dancing, both stoves have a very pleasant sound as the air enters the intake openings. The Locke also has a suction sound through the top lid sliding regulator and the Wehrle has the same kind of sound around the valve of the mpd. It's like the stoves are singing to me when they're working right. That might sound kind of corny but I really like that. I think once I get used to that and have more experience as the colder days pass, I will be able to adjust them without the manometer. In my mind I imagine someone back in the 1800's and early 1900's who knew his stove well enough to know how to adjust it by listening to it. What do you guys think?
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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i think you're not only an expert restorer but a very savvy operator too. it's all about the details and you have that down pat.jubileejerry wrote:I'm a rookie coal burner, long-time wood-burner, and so far I'm glad I switched. I'm having a lot of fun learning to use the two stoves I'm using, the Wehrle baseburner and the Warm Morning Locke 120. I have a mpd on the Locke and a baro plus a mpd on the Wehrle. We haven't had very cold weather here yet, with only a couple of days down around 9-15deg. F. It's mostly been in the low thirties at night. I'm using Blaschak nut in the Wehrle and Kimmels nut in the Locke. I can't say I can see a very big difference in them but maybe with more experience I will. I think later I might swap them and see if I can notice any differences then. They both have similar amounts of ashes and seem to be almost the same color, slightly reddish. I've fished out large pieces of wood from both kinds (4-5" long X 1" square). I've been able to maintain fires for long periods without problems. I only lost the fires two times due to not loading in time. I just goofed up by shaking it too much and I think too much cold air hit the coals. Anyway, what I have noticed is when the manometer shows the right draft, and the coals are nice and red with the soft blue flames dancing, both stoves have a very pleasant sound as the air enters the intake openings. The Locke also has a suction sound through the top lid sliding regulator and the Wehrle has the same kind of sound around the valve of the mpd. It's like the stoves are singing to me when they're working right. That might sound kind of corny but I really like that. I think once I get used to that and have more experience as the colder days pass, I will be able to adjust them without the manometer. In my mind I imagine someone back in the 1800's and early 1900's who knew his stove well enough to know how to adjust it by listening to it. What do you guys think?
i'm kind of surprised that you guys have had that kind of cold already, we've had 28* overnight a few times but nothing lower than that yet, could change the next 3 days, though they say it will be back up in the mid fifties again next week.
happy heating,
steve
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I agree with Steve, you have noticed one of the key things necessary to operate a coal stove or furnace. I 'listen' to my furnace every time I tend or check it. I do not use a manometer, and I use a MPD. Her whispers will tell me what she needs each time.
- freetown fred
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Nice JJ, YES, I can tell a lot just listening to the old HITZER!
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An accomplished "Stove Whisperer" is what Id offer>>> all you hand fired guys
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- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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"Stove Whisperer" that's VERY good, wish i'd thought of it.waldo lemieux wrote:An accomplished "Stove Whisperer" is what Id offer>>> all you hand fired guys
- Canaan coal man
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While my G6 dose not sing, The wife however complains that I talk and worrie more about the stove than her, I hear that loud and clear.
- Sunny Boy
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- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
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My range doesn't sing, it just hums along,..... it hasn't learned the words yet.
Paul
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- michaelanthony
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- Coal Size/Type: 'nut
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Haha, they're all sisters! My wife say's the same thing.Canaan coal man wrote:While my G6 dose not sing, The wife however complains that I talk and worrie more about the stove than her, I hear that loud and clear.
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dont yah love it guys . my hitzer 354 and my old hearthglow brunco I could tell just by the draft /sound minus the windows what she . they were doing !!!! and yah the lady of the house complained ,what are you doing ,what is it with that stove ,etc. really arent you warm I asked well that only got me so far .!