The Enemy

Yanche wrote:In keeping with the title of this thread, "The Enemy". There's a study that claims, "Islamic terrorists are more likely to be engineers than members of any other profession". Obviously this has the engineering community up in arms. For the full article see: http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtm ... =206902291

Don't be silly Yanche! We realize that not all engineers are terrorists............Just most of them!

Yanche, it wouldn't surprise me if most of them in this country were not well educated. At least the ones that are leading. The act of doing the deed could certainly be carried out by anyone that could follow directions but the planning and logistics would require some amount of intelligence for a successful operation.Ironically a majority of them here and abroad were probably educated in U.S. institutions.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/ ... -11th.html

To whoever mentioned that they see WW1 and WW2 as just a continuation of the same old war - this can be applied quite well to the middle east. Sept 11 is no happenstance date. The fact that it was chosen as the day to restart the siege against the Christian West ought to send shivers down our spine.

The problem is not just with Afghanistan/Pakistan. It is with Islam. Any Islamic nation is de facto at war with us, and always will be, and we may as well get used to it. The Crusades have resumed, and this time they will have the advantage - the Christian nobility who successfully resisted in 1683 are long gone. The liberals and pseudo intellectuals have basically rolled out the Red Carpet to the invaders.

Have fun trying to hide in your Ivory Towers...

Coal Jockey wrote:To whoever mentioned that they see WW1 and WW2 as just a continuation of the same old war - this can be applied quite well to the middle east. Sept 11 is no happenstance date. The fact that it was chosen as the day to restart the siege against the Christian West ought to send shivers down our spine.

Good post. France is 25% Muslim, England at 20% and growing at an alarming rate. Both these nations are starting to bend over backwards to avoid offending anyone. British soldiers in Iraq were having tea and crumpets while Sadar's men were stealing billions in oil and thugs running the Basra area. Europe has begun its capitulation, we are next on the list.

What I want to know is where is the backlash?

coaledsweat wrote:

Coal Jockey wrote:To whoever mentioned that they see WW1 and WW2 as just a continuation of the same old war - this can be applied quite well to the middle east. Sept 11 is no happenstance date. The fact that it was chosen as the day to restart the siege against the Christian West ought to send shivers down our spine.

Good post. France is 25% Muslim, England at 20% and growing at an alarming rate. Both these nations are starting to bend over backwards to avoid offending anyone. British soldiers in Iraq were having tea and crumpets while Sadar's men were stealing billions in oil and thugs running the Basra area. Europe has begun its capitulation, we are next on the list.

What I want to know is where is the backlash?

Um, of what "capitulation" do you speak?

Remember, western countries are supposed to be tolerant and respectful of differing religious beliefs. And ours raises that to the Constitutional level.

There's an interesting new film called "Constantine's Sword," about what people have done through the ages and will do in the name of their God(s). It focuses particularly on Christians and Jews but, I gather from the preview talk, provides an analogy with strong implications about "backlash" or other intolerant talk about differing religious beliefs and what may flow from it. It's brand new, opening today in some areas. I'm going to see it as soon as I can.

stockingfull wrote:
Um, of what "capitulation" do you speak? .

I believe that is reference to many European countries changing their laws to suit the Muslims. Suchas this Drivers license, not sure what State it is.

Richard S. wrote:

stockingfull wrote:
Um, of what "capitulation" do you speak? :smoke: .

I believe that is reference to many European countries changing their laws to suit the Muslims. Suchas this Drivers license, not sure what State it is.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

There is being respectful and tolerant, and then there is compromising culture and even principles and laws of one's society. Britain and a number of other nations have begun down a road of compromising bedrock principles of free society at the behest of their briskly expanding muslim populations (a great many of which are sympathetic and even loyal not to the culture they have immigrated into, but of the centuries old, religious tyranny, throwback cultures they hail from) and the ignorant, liberal, multi-culturalists that espouse and enable it all in the name of tolerance and respect and often for nothing more than a shortsighted play for an expanded political demographic to vote for them.

Multi-culturalism has run amok in Europe. It is leading to increasing cultural pressures to capitulate, yes capitulate, to the anti-democratic, anti-freedom, anti-political-secularism whims of the fundamentalist and militant Islamicists that have woven themselves into European populations.

This isn't to say multi-culturalism is at its core a flawed concept, I think it has it's place in an open society, but it is being taken to absurd levels in Europe. Much of this capitulation is done under tacit or actual threat of violence, but that just brings us around to the biblical quote in the religion thread: "If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all."

We are witnessing, first hand, the crumbling "faith" of Europe in its own principles and culture and how it is leading to the slow fall of a number of nations of the continent. We must see and take this lesson to heart, lest a similar fate befall us.

The genius of our system is that, even we Christians and Jews (and refugees therefrom) were to become a religious minority in this country, our right to follow our religious beliefs is preserved in what's known as the "establishment clause" of the First Amendment to the Constitution. That means that, just as we cannot impose the Lord's Prayer upon public school students or post the Ten Commandments in courthouses, neither can our government ever establish Islamic religious doctrine in our law.

But, gentlemen, that's precisely the danger of those "faith-based initiatives" which seemed so attractive when L'il Bush proposed them a few years back: it may be all well and good that an after-school program is being run at a church -- until you discover that the one for your kid happens to be at a mosque.

It's a line that must be strictly respected.

Check out the color for the eyes on the license, I just noticed that.

Richard S. wrote:Check out the color for the eyes on the license, I just noticed that.

Yea, she's a tall drink of water too.

Opening soon in a theater near you:

http://www.whereisobl.com/#/videos/

Richard S. wrote:

stockingfull wrote:
Um, of what "capitulation" do you speak? .

I believe that is reference to many European countries changing their laws to suit the Muslims. Suchas this Drivers license, not sure what State it is.

New Jersey, and a poorly done one as well.

coalkirk wrote:

Richard S. wrote:Check out the color for the eyes on the license, I just noticed that.

Yea, she's a tall drink of water too.

6' 3", isn't OBL 6' 3"?