Questions About a Hitzer 50-93 and a Hearthpad

 
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Post by Bagodonuts » Mon. Dec. 21, 2015 9:27 pm

New guy here needs some advice. We bought a new Hitzer 50-93 radiant (no blower fan) for a house we will soon move into.It is on a hearth pad we got at the same stove dealer. I fired it for the first time over the weekend and all went well, but I'm a bit concerned about how hot the hearth pad got directly under the stove. I've run an Efel Lion bought in the '80's in my current house for many years, this stove sits on a brick pad. the legs of the Efel do not get hot and you can put your hand on the bricks directly under the stove and they are only mildly warm. I was surprised at how hot the "legs" were on the Hitzer and the hearth pad was too hot to lay a hand on.Is this normal? The stove dealer told me the hearth pad was meant to go right on the carpet and was rated for this type of stove. Anybody run a Hitzer with a similar situation?


 
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Post by Photog200 » Mon. Dec. 21, 2015 9:45 pm

I don't use a Hitzer stove so I am no expert on them for sure. If this was your first fire, it might be hotter than the normal will be. When I shake down my stove before reloading, I leave the ash in the pan until the next time I go to shake. I then empty the pan and shake again, leaving the ash in the pan for the next time. The ash in the pan insulates the bottom of the stove from getting so hot. I am sure others that are more familiar with your stove will chime in. It has been a slow day on here so be patient, they will be along with helpful information.

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Post by oliver power » Mon. Dec. 21, 2015 9:48 pm

Can't help you there........ Both my HITZER's have always been on concrete, or brick. Never really paid attention to heat below the stoves for that reason. Hang on; Fred, or one of the other HITZER owner's will be along shortly.

 
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Post by oliver power » Mon. Dec. 21, 2015 9:50 pm

Photog200 wrote:I don't use a Hitzer stove so I am no expert on them for sure. If this was your first fire, it might be hotter than the normal will be. When I shake down my stove before reloading, I leave the ash in the pan until the next time I go to shake. I then empty the pan and shake again, leaving the ash in the pan for the next time. The ash in the pan insulates the bottom of the stove from getting so hot. I am sure others that are more familiar with your stove will chime in. It has been a slow day on here so be patient, they will be along with helpful information.

Randy
Yes to what Randy says. Ash in the ash pan will insulate.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Dec. 21, 2015 10:04 pm

I'm curious to see a pix of your hearth pad--I am on tile over plywood & yes the legs & bottom are hot but nothing I would worry about with my tile distributing the heat. Even w/ ash pan empty which it is all day. I shake night & morning & empty. Also, each leg has an individual 4X4 tile under it--I'd say 1/2--5/8 thickness-- I've never thought much of hearth pads/rugs--but I guess they are fire rated. If'n it were me, I'd find 4 good lookin thick tiles at your local tile/rug store & put one under each leg. Square them up & it'll look fine.

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Post by Bagodonuts » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 6:00 pm

Thanks for the input guys. I'll be workin' on the house this weekend and I'll try to post a picture of the set-up.

 
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Post by oliver power » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 6:36 pm

Bagodonuts wrote:Thanks for the input guys. I'll be workin' on the house this weekend and I'll try to post a picture of the set-up.
Where are you located? Please finish your profile.....


 
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Post by Bagodonuts » Tue. Dec. 22, 2015 8:29 pm

I currently live in Coaldale Pa. The Hitzer is in Summit Hill Pa. I was born and raised in the Summit Hill house and will soon be moving back there. I didn't realize I left the profile incomplete, I'll fix it.

 
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Post by Bagodonuts » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 7:54 pm

OK, I got some pics at (at last) of the hearthpad. It was bought at the same dealer as the stove, I asked more than once if this was adequate and recommended for the stove. What do you think Freetown Fred?

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Post by coal nut » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 8:06 pm

Stove should be further back on that hearth pad. Pad looks a little short to protect front as well as rear.You want more protection in front. Min 16"-18"

Fyi- that light carpet's going to be a mess.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 9:44 pm

It looks OK. If ya could slide out the pad about 6" or so, I'd like a lil more in the front. If you're real careful w/ shakin & tendin you won't have that much ash floatin around. I don't clean my 'T" but every 3 mos. or so.& just hold a 5 gal. pail right up to it & have no mess. Again, looks good. I was thinkin a much chincier pad. That one's good. Looks like a nice old house that's been kept up well.

 
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Post by coal nut » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 10:03 pm

No it does not look ok.

Code requires 16" in front.
Code also requires area under stove pipe have hearth protection.
Right now the area under the pipe is protected. The front is no where near code. (Or at least doesn't appear so in pic) You need to extend the back of hearth so you can move the pad out towards the front.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 10:17 pm

Sooo, ya figure those bigger tiles are 12" & the small ones are 4". You tell me CN?

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 10:19 pm

Looks like an AJ Hearth protector...
If it is then...
AJ floor protectors must be installed on a flat, continuous surface.
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Carpet or other easily compressed materials must be removed prior to installation. Failure to remove carpet will preclude using floor protector as Type 2 Thermal floor protection.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Dec. 27, 2015 10:22 pm

Looks like the thickness is 1" or so & I'd be real curious what kind of backing is on the pad.


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